We have a couple here, too Josh.

Now you have to explain why you’re endorsing ZFS, given that “the community” 
trashed talked my suggestion that running ZFS instead of nano on a SSD (or even 
USB3 memstick)
was, potentially a *much* more durable (and more performant) result.  (*)

When you’re done, explain the difference between the cylinder write patterns on 
NTFS and UFS (which is what anyone performing a “full install” would likely 
prefer today).
Then (and this should be easy) explain the difference between either of these 
filesystems and the things that make ZFS so different, including 
de-duplication, the “thou shalt never write a block in-place” rule that 
pervades the entire filesystem design, and the log-based structure that ZFS 
uses for the ZIL.

Things will get outrageous soon with the advent of M.2 PCI SSDs on a x4 
connection.

But hey, it’s always possible that I don’t know WTF I’m talking about.

— The LIzzard

(*) it’s not in 2.2 because I’m trying to make 2.2 happen in 2014.

> On Oct 30, 2014, at 6:13 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@spitwspots.com> wrote:
> 
> Every data I've seen on "them sucking" has to do specifically with NTFS, 
> which the newly released firmware update is supposed to fix.
> 
> We are using 840Evo's in all of our storage arrays, and haven't seen any 
> issues (EXT4/ZFS).
> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com/>On 10/30/2014 
> 07:33 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Jeppe Øland <jol...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:jol...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 3 year old Kingston SSDs are not like new Kingston SSDs.
>>> 
>>> Agreed.
>>> 
>>> On the other hand, I tend to distrust manufacturers that shipped
>>> completely unreliable drives without any thought.
>>> Kingston/OCZ/Crucial are all in this boat for me.
>> 
>> I’m sure I’ve been burned at least as badly by these, and others, and I 
>> still buy from them.
>> 
>> Samsung 840s are the darling of the “cheap, fast SSD” and they turn out to 
>> suck, too:
>> http://www.pcper.com/news/Storage/Samsung-Germany-acknowledges-840-Basic-performance-slow-down-promises-fix
>>  
>> <http://www.pcper.com/news/Storage/Samsung-Germany-acknowledges-840-Basic-performance-slow-down-promises-fix>
>> 
>>> As for Nano, I thought it mounted almost everything as RO and only
>>> changed settings to write down settings changes, and RRD databases etc
>>> on reboots?
>> 
>> I think I’ve already responded to this.
>> 
>> nano is a > 10 year old “solution” to the problems that existed at the time.
>> http://markmail.org/message/rxe4xfpmdwva7q3e 
>> <http://markmail.org/message/rxe4xfpmdwva7q3e>
>> 
>> That doesn’t mean it’s a bad solution, but though it’s author is a brilliant 
>> individual, he obviously didn’t envision SSD in 2004.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> 
>> 
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