You could be right, I was writing from memory and ... tbh, I don't care enough 
to go look it up again :).  They shut down, that's a pain in the butt, I was 
already on HE anyway, end of story for me.
I would do the same here, except that (IMHO) Google's refusal to support DHCPv6 
on Android is completely asinine.  So my phone still doesn't get an IPv6 
address here at home :-(.
(Note: Apple products work perfectly.)

It's interesting to speculate about what will happen at some future date when 
HE turns off (or starts charging for) their tunnel service...  I haven't heard 
anything credible yet, but I assume it'll happen someday.

-Adam

> -----Original Message-----
> From: List [mailto:list-boun...@lists.pfsense.org] On Behalf Of Moshe
> Katz
> Sent: August 2, 2017 21:38
> To: pfSense Support and Discussion Mailing List <list@lists.pfsense.org>
> Subject: Re: [pfSense] IPv6 1:1 NAT problems
> 
> Adam,
> 
> Actually, the reason SIXXS shut down is exactly the opposite of what you
> said. SIXXS shut down because IPv6 adoption was going too slow and a
> number of ISPs were actually telling their customers "we don't plan to
> implement
> IPv6 because you can get it from SIXXS if you really want it." In effect,
> ISPs were using tunnels as a way of *reducing *IPv6 rollouts.
> 
> Vick,
> 
> I also have an HE tunnel at home because my ISP is dragging their feet
> about implementing IPv6. In fact, my main guest WiFi network runs
> *only* IPv6.
> Most of my guests only care about Gmail and YouTube, and those have
> been
> IPv6 enabled for ages. It's an experiment to see how many visitors can
> get away with not noticing that they have no IPv4 connectivity.
> 
> Moshe
> 
> --
> Moshe Katz
> -- mo...@ymkatz.net
> -- +1(301)867-3732 <(301)%20867-3732>
> 
> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:32 PM, Adam Thompson
> <athom...@athompso.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > So?  Neither do I.  I don't have native IPv6 at the office either.
> > But both are fully IPv6-connected.
> > That's what Hurricane Electric tunnels are for.  (And SIXXS, formerly,
> > but they've decided that IPv6 penetration has reached a point where
> > they're not needed anymore.  Hahahaha...)
> >
> > http://www.tunnelbroker.net/
> >
> > Disclaimer: my home situation is a bit of an anomaly - the nearest HE
> > IPv6 tunnel endpoint is <5msec away from my home router [wireless,
> not
> > DSL or cable], and my ISP has a 10Gbps connection to them.
> > Performance is VERY satisfactory.  However, even my office, where the
> > nearest HE tunnel endpoint is 30+msec away gets perfectly acceptable
> performance on IPv6.
> > Largely because IPv6 paths tend to be shorter and transit fewer
> routers.
> > (There are a number of factors at play; sometimes IPv6 is tunneled
> > over IPv4, which means the path isn't *really* shorter.)
> >
> > -Adam
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: List [mailto:list-boun...@lists.pfsense.org] On Behalf Of Vick
> > > Khera
> > > Sent: August 2, 2017 21:28
> > > To: pfSense Support and Discussion Mailing List
> > > <list@lists.pfsense.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [pfSense] IPv6 1:1 NAT problems
> > >
> > > Nice. Thanks for the explanation. My IPv6 knowledge is slowly being
> > > built up. Not having IPv6 at my home router makes it hard to play
> > > with. I've not had the courage to bring "live" my direct allocation
> > > at the data
> > center
> > > yet.
> >
> >
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