Ok...fair enough....but consider this (very OT): The C/C++ programming languages have had the ability for many years to cause havoc on a machine when one of it's most powerful features (pointers) is mis-used. In response to this, there have been many libraries developed to wrap this language feature in 'safe' clothing. But, did they remove pointers from the language??? Absolutely not....it's there to use, and also to mis-use (at your own risk).
I feel the same way about things such as the (loved??) IFRAME/FRAME tags. These are horrible to use on sites where SEO and accessibility are of top concern. However, when developing the web versions of desktop applications (i.e., not necessary or desired to allow linking to every page, and not SEO....nor will they hardly ever be - these are typically bought by businesses and deployed internally to solve a business process need), these 'useless' tags turn into gold mines of features without writing the reams of JS necessary for a modern AJAX experience. Again, they are just another (useful) tool in our toolbox - not correct for every situation, but very useful from time to time. Hmmm....so what is the NPV of the original $.02?????? Mike ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************