An HR element is effectively presentation markup. It's a *visual* break in
the page. This means that if you are working towards proper semantic markup,
you shouldn't be using the HR element.

Styling a DIV is just fine. The DIV can be used to semantically indicate a
section of text and may contain several P tags, for example. Then you could
style to DIV by adding a border.

Now the structure is semantic, and the visual effect (the horizontal line)
is in the CSS where it belongs.

Lucien.


On 19/2/07 4:44 PM, "Dwain Alford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> after following several threads, i have converted my site to html 4.01.
> what i want to do is section the parts of my page with hrs.  i can't figure
> out why the styling of the hr does not work in ff or opera.
> 
> currently i am using borders on divs to achieve this effect, but to my
> understanding the hr would be semantically correct to separate the page into
> sections rather than use borders on divs as presentation.  the last two hrs
> on the test page separate a side note from the rest of the content.  i guess
> i could live with the presentational effect of the border that is currently
> being used at the top of the page.
> 
> i have not removed the borders from the css, but you can see the faint line
> of the hr and its initial placement.
> 
> what say you of my reasoning and what would be the best practice; and if
> it's for the hr, how do i make it black?
> 
> http://www.studiokdd.com/sandbox/alaskan-dream.html
> 
> http://www.studiokdd.com/sandbox/css/kddindipix.css
> 
> dwain

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