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What you mean.................? Take care Niaz -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ross jempson Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 6:39 AM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.? Current leaders: Troll / fisherman of the year : Muhammed Niaz Flamer / Flamee of the year : <cough> <cough> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Jonas Follesø <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > First on the AJAX/JavaScript comment: I completely agree. This is something > I mentioned in the "Future of the web" discussion panel at Tech Ed in > Sydney. I think that in the end JavaScript might be a stronger competitor to > Silverlight than Flash. JavaScript is getting significant faster in Chrome, > FireFox and Safari (and Microsoft is playing catch-up in IE8). New > frameworks like jQuery (now embraced by Microsoft) is making it easier to > build rich JavaScript based applications, and the tooling support is also > getting more solid. > > By using plain AJAX/JavaScript you don't have to depend on any add-in or > vendor lock-in. In the future <Canvas> and <Video>, when ever implemented in > all browsers, might make AJAX/JavaScript an even more compelling alternative > to Flash and Silverlight. > > That being said I am big Silverlight 2 fan, and definitely think the > technology is ready for main-stream development work. I think Silverlight 2 > will be an easier alternative for businesses wanting to build Rich Internet > Applications. The reason: tools they know (VS2008), same language on > client/server, and consistent API/documentation/tooling (compared to the web > where you have to know multiple technologies to do it well). > > I also think that the requirements and expectations within (internal) line > of business applications will go up as the users get used to great online > user experiences on the "public web". These users will expect something more > inside the company, and I think that in the future having great internal > software might be a differentiator for companies wanting to recruit > information workers. > > As to the Flex vs Silverlight 2 decision I don't know enough about Flex to > really comment on it. However, I think that most of us have seen great > examples of Flash-based RIAs, so the technology is more than capable of > delivering great applications. One of my current favorites is > http://www.sliderocket.com/. So if you and your team knows Flex, and the > company sees that as a important technology in the future, by all means use > it! That makes perfect business sense. What I'm saying is that Silverlight 2 > feels a need for the .NET/Microsoft development crowd who is comfortable in > VS2008 and C#, and now need to meet higher expectations to deliver great > user experiences online. > > - Jonas > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Barry Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> > You want me to give you a run sheet of our entire game plan so you can >> > run it off to your buddies at Adobe, think again bazza :) think again! :) >> > >> > Sorry, nice try but no cigar. >> >> no, Scott, it's not that. >> >> I actually don't cut much code anymore these days: analysis, design, >> recommendations, etc. I'm trying to get a deeper understanding on SL's >> place in the world now/soon and I'm not going to recommend spending >> resources on cutting edge (if not bleeding edge) if it's not yet worth >> it to solve real business problems. I don't work in a design agency, I >> don't work with general-public-facing web. >> >> I mean, because I know Flex, I can see more than one option so I'm >> looking at ROI, product differentiation, what works for where and why, >> alternatives**, etc. E.g: SL's use of C#, while important for teams, >> can be negated in other ways: what Peter DeHaan at Adobe is up, etc. >> >> As for getting SL infront of eyeballs, I've already given you one >> suggestion - but I do admit cross-department logistics make it a long >> shot, which is a shame. >> >> so I *am* pumping you for information, Scott, but not for the reasons >> you think. But you did do a good job shedding a bit more light a >> couple of emails back, and for that many thanks. >> >> barry.b out. >> >> ** I've come across more than one example where a DHTML/Ajax-y app >> would work better than what's been served up with Flex. Perhaps both >> Flex and SL share a competitor there? >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to >> the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. >> Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to > the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. > Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net ------------------------------------------------------------------- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. 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