Norm, Check out Costa Rica, you only have to prove to the government that you have an income of $600.00... HTH
Sea Ya Larry S/V Two Step-N N 40* 53.320' W 073* 47.122' ----- Original Message ---- From: Norm of Bandersnatch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jeff S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: A LiveAboardList <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 12:06:10 PM Subject: [Liveaboard] The LIvaboard Lifestyle Jeff, There is one other gentleman whom I see often at his boat in Julington Creek, the green-hulled Tahiti ketch, Tahiti Rover, anchored closest to the marinas. He is Robbie Johnson and has a cruising cookbook, the Gourmet Underway, or similar. He is not sociable unless he is holding forth about his victory over his recent cop attack. My boat is anchored farthest from the marinas due to draft limitations. Jan and I are off and on because we are taking care of my elderly mother in Ft Myers. You should be aware that the liveaboard lifestyle is under constant attack. Many Florida municipalities, and I have heard the State itself too, actually outlaw living aboard a boat, as does Georgia. We are considered to be bums and tramps, akin to Gypsies, and there are laws against our very existence. Some weeks ago my nearest neighbor ashore stated that he hated me because: I didn't pay property taxes (he pays $25K/year for his multi-million dollar house), I poop in the river (I have a composting toilet) and I am anchored in his sight. I am considering taking my pension and SS checks and moving to another country to live out my retirement. Suggestions anyone? Or I could find a marina in this country somewhere and tie the boat up even though the boat is self-sufficient at anchor. Rent and utilities would cost me about half my retirement stipend. It is far more acceptable to the bosses for someone who lives aboard to do this. It is a lifestyle more similar the lives of the politicians and cops and more to the point; part of one's rent money finds its way into their pockets. "Local cities and counties in Florida have been prohibited by statute 327.60(2) from regulating the anchoring of non live-aboard vessels even though many of them have been doing so for years." (from the recent posting) Notice that this prohibition only applies to "NON-LIVEABOARD" vessels. Locals are free to outlaw anyone who actually lives aboard his vessel. If you own a residence somewhere you are a "full time cruiser" instead of a "liveaboard". This is why cops often ask if you have a home on land. The proper answer is always "yes". Keep in mind that it is crime to lie to a cop, whether you are under oath or not. (However, is is perfectly legal for a cop to lie to a citizen and they often do.) Notice further that our being declared to be criminals has entirely to do with owning property ashore or tying up in a marina. The crux of the matter lies in money, which relates to the greed for power. Paying property taxes on a residence ashore is the primary source of the money in the politician's and the cop's wallet. If money flows freely from your pocket to the politician's and cop's pocket, you are a good citizen, if not, you are a criminal. I hope you noticed the message posted on this List about the pending major attack on us by the FWC water cops. I hope you responded and made your viewpoint known to the address provided. American society is two-faced. The independent, self-sufficient ,lifestyle is often respected and admired in literature as the strength of the Pioneers who built this Country, but in actual fact we are vilified, considered to be degenerate reprobates and laws are enacted to destroy us, a process going on as we speak. If you are considering living aboard a boat you must consider these facts. These are the man-made conditions the liveaboard has to contend with, and they are by far the most danger we face, far worse than any weather, mechanical breakage, or navigation demands. Our own country, which we spent our lives helping to build and supporting in many ways, has turned against us and has hired men with guns to destroy us. Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek 30 07.695N 081 38.484W ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff S To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 9/27/2008 5:42:59 PM Subject: Anchored in Julington Creek Hi Norm, I saw your posts on the Liveaboard forums. I live in the area and drive over the bridge every day and have seen the number of boats anchoring up west of the marinas. Does anyone else live aboard there? My wife and I are talking about buying a boat and I thought that would be a great place to stay. Thanks Jeff
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