Re: [Liveaboard] (no subject)I am not considering givivng up my citizenship either. No Matter where we live. But then again, my kid gets a choice now doesn't she? As for being political... The question was and is not political, it is about citizenship (apolitical as you need a home port somewhere). And as for being directed at a single person... You is third person, not first or second... And can be plural as in youse (bad bad english, hides from my 2 favorite (and sexy) english teachers wayyyy back in high school).
Noel N.Y. RUSSELL Office Coffee Service "Java Powered Service" -----Original Message----- From: 'bella Sent: Fri, 03 October 2008 10:26:56 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] (no subject) In the context of the original comments about moving overseas due to the current political clime towards boaters in this country.. its not too far out of the realm of liveaboard... Noel to answer your question....NO I would not... the advantages to me, as a human, are far to great in opposition to the cons of being an alen in this country... it will only get worse being a foriegn registered boater coming into US water. To whit; If you are a foriegn flagged vessel, this includes pleasure boaters, you now must _everytime_ you move your boat. Notify Homeland Security. I think it was on Salty Southeast I read, that a canadian couple moved thier boat from thier marina in Fort Lauderdale to a Boatyard for bottom painting and were either fined severely or severly yelled at becasue the local homeland stupidity office was not notifed well in advance. Other places dont give a rat's ass what flag flys from your boat and when and were you moved as long as you are in this country legally... OTOH, there are places that as a boater, being a US citizen, you are not exactly welcome... Since there are plenty of other places to go wthat like my passport and they like my $$$, then I can chose those and leave my $$ there.. Further, being a US flagged vessel with a US citizen on it.. offers me advantages if I need help in a foriegn country.. not all countries have a system you can walk into your own embassy and have them fly you for free home... That, I think is not to much politics is it Phillip? I think that some people would rather eat bland lemon flavored jello than a little spice cake some days... Me? I like both... but politics, no matter how you like it, phillip will always be, as boaters, a part of our lives... politics in some 3rd world countries will drives us to or away... politics in our own land will drive us batty and make us hae to comply wiht some pretty crazy stuff...it might even make a few leave... One will never completely get away with it.. it is everywhere, here, there, everywhere.. fair winds.. On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 6:41 AM, Philip & Marilyn wrote: You did not write a generic question. But if that is what you believe you have done, I suggest you start a put a descriptive subject on this thread and ask the group. I do however think that political discussion of that nature it is way out of bounds for a liveaboard email list. Philip At 08:23 PM 10/2/2008, you wrote: Generic Question N.Y. RUSSELL Office Coffee Service "Java Powered Service" -----Original Message----- From: Philip & Marilyn Sent: Thu, 02 October 2008 11:50:37 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] (no subject) I did not say or imply that I would. Philip At 12:48 PM 10/2/2008, you wrote: why would you give up US citizenship? N.Y. RUSSELL Office Coffee Service "Java Powered Service" "Be the change you want to see" Philip & Marilyn Lange AE4OV & KD4JRC, ORYOKI Witness 35 Catamaran _______________________________________________ Liveaboard mailing list [email protected] To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html -- http://www.slideshare.net/jacko91/these-are-my-credentials/ http://fisherhouse.org/ http://www.specialops.org/ "We are the gaurdians of a great faith. When we believe that freedom offers the best chance of peace and prosperity for all, and our desire for peace cannot be seperated from our believe in liberty." Harry J. Truman
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