If the grate were not recessed, that would solve the problem of not being able 
to center pans over the burners.  However, it would not solve the problem of 
low heat output.  Apparently my Force 10 burners each put out 4100BTU's.  The 
link provided by Phillip took me to a Force 10 2 burner stove that has a large 
burner and a small burner, 4100 and 8200 BTU's respectively.  I took the 
research a bit further and learned that Force 10 is an ENO subsidiary.  I was 
recently on a friend's Dutch built boat--built in 1972--which had an ENO stove 
that really put out the heat.  I assumed that ENO was either an old and 
probably defunct company or a European company whose products were not likely 
distributed in the US.  Wrong on both counts.

Thanks to everyone for the input, and especially for the links provided by 
Phillip.

Peter
s/v Now or Never!




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From: 'bella <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2009 8:15:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Galley stoves


Interesting... IF the grate wer not recessed would it be acceptable?   I had a 
single burner butane stove that was quite acceptable temp and cooking wise, but 
the way the 'grate't was it would not accept a smallish pot without it falling 
over since the legs of the grate were so far apart.  I fixed that by putting a 
grate over the box it was in that was from a camping store  couple of pad eyes 
on the back and I slipped the grate back 'piece' into the pad eye (really small 
ones) and the front piece was bent down to slip into a pair in the front to 
hold it on. Worked like a charm for my small pots and the larger souppout I 
used like a crockpot.   I only used that method at anchor or the slip. cooking 
underway was smaller pots and used the recess to keep everying where it belongs 
on the stove and not my cabin sole.  
 
I have an alcohol stove with oven on my Oday 30 and will replace it asap the 
final sale paperwork is done.  I am not sure I will be using the oven much.  I 
have not had a house so to speak in 4.5 yrs with an oven and I have learned to 
do without since i don't eat bread much.  The oven, for me, makes a nifty pot 
storage.  <GG>


On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Peter Kafer <[email protected]> wrote:

Propane.  I've been a fan of propane for over 40 years.
>
>
________________________________
 From: 'bella <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected]
>Sent: Friday, October 2, 2009 10:31:09 PM
>Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Galley stoves
>
>propane or alcohol?   propane puts out more heat than alcohol.
>
>
>On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Peter Kafer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>We have a Force 10, 2 burner stove(no oven, don't really need one).  We are 
>dissatisfied.  First of all, it doesn't put out enough heat.  Secondly, the 
>grate upon which the cooking vessels sit is recessed so that it is not 
>possible to center a large pot or skillet over the burners.  Does anyone have 
>other stoves to recommend?
>>
>>Peter
>>s/v Now or Never!  
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