Hey Mark,

Well, I could always try to make time (time suddenly is a rare commodity once you furthered yourself in the human genepool, at least for the next 6 years or so).

What I see as a problem is not so much the automatic starting of a thread, but when to stop it. In a stand alone application this is not such a problem, but in a container, where you have a separate configuration for each context (webapp0, I can't imagine where to hook that in, in a generic fashion. Starting could be done in the static constructor of a class, which is loaded by the classloader of the context, but AFAIK there is no static destructor.

How does the plugin logic start and stop plugins?

Tom



Mark Womack wrote:

Tom,

In v1.3 Watchdogs will be a subclass of Plugin.  Plugins are new to v1.3 and
configurable from (at least xml) configuration files.  So, you'll be able to
define watchdogs in the configuration files.  Plugins have some code to not
stop/recreate running plugins during reconfiguration, so eventually if a
watchdog is watching the configuration file that defines it, it will be
maintained across reconfigurations, etc.  Still working out some of those
details.  Actually the Watchdog code I released way-back-when still needs to
be checked into cvs and worked into the plugin infrastructure.

If you have any comments, ideas, or time to review (once I get it checked
in) I'd love to hear them.

thanks,
-Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Eugelink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 6:06 AM
To: Log4J Users List
Subject: Re: automatic reload


I see (took a look at the sources that were included in the older mail).


Basically he has rewritten the "AndWatch" part, expanding it into a semi-framework, and adding a method to stop the thread ("stopWatching").

Basically one could write a servlet that starts a watchdog upon load and stops it upon finalize. It still isn't done totally external of the application via configuration, but I can see how that can be a problem.

I'll ponder a bit more. Thank you!

Tom



Jacob Kjome wrote:


look at configureAndWatch() in the configurators.

However, I wouldn't use this in a container as the thread

will run until


the JVM is shut down. There is no manual way to stop it.

Look for Mark Womack's watchdogs in the next version of Log4j for a better solution. Here's an old message with some actual

code showing


how it works. Check the latest CVS, though, as things have

probably


changed...
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=log4j-user&m=101656353725142&w=2

Jake

At 01:52 PM 11/9/2003 +0100, you wrote:


I know there is a parameter which can be used to specifiy

that log4j


must reload a configuration file (checking every so often). But I prefer autoconfiguration. AFAIK it is not possible to set

autoreload


from a configuration file, correct?

Tom





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