On Jun 11, 2007, at 4:11 PM, Knut Urdalen wrote:
Curt Arnold wrote:
The decision to terminate the incubation of log4php at the Apache
Software Foundation was due to a failure to build a community
around the product that could ensure its long-term viability. Any
technical issues were secondary. ASF releases need to have the
endorsement of a community and not just be a product of just one
man or company even if the product is technically outstanding.
The vote to terminate basically acknowledges their was no
indication that log4php would ever had a sufficient community to
pass the exit requirements, so it didn't make sense to keep asking
for reports on progress when their was never any response or any
signs of life.
I fully understand the reasons for this decision looking at the
current state of log4php. That's why I speak up. To me, the most
important thing now is to get access to the project and start
fixing the PHP 5 version. First when this work starts and we give
access to a few others as well we will get some more activity here.
Like now there is no maintainer and there's no one to take care of
patches and new features and users feel no reason to even try
posting patches and thoughts.
Keep having this tool at logging.apache.org seems like the only
reasonable thing to me. We are already far into the PHP 5 shift and
while the PHP 5 adoption increase I think this tool will be more
and more used. The largest open source project using it now is
SugarCRM.
If you do end up branching the project, we'd could provide a link
from http://logging.apache.org to your log4php like we do for
other non-ASF logging frameworks.
That would be the last way out.
If you are interested in helping with development of a restarted
log4php, please speak up.
I think I've already done that ;)
Sorry that was a call for others on the list to state interest. It
would be good to know if Michael Schmitz's +1 meant that he supports
someone else working on the project or he would be interested in
contributing himself. If the latter, you would have the requisite 3
committers.
