Dave Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I got the following email in response to my TT2 article. I know nothing
> about EmbPerl so I can't really answer these points. Does anyone who has
> used EmbPerl have any ammo that I can use in my reply?
> 
> Dave...
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from [snip] -----
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> I'm curious why you prefer the TT to EmbPerl?  It seems that the capabilities
> of TT are a strict subset of EmbPerl.  Granted the syntax is arguably slightly 
> easier at first than EmbPerl, it doesn't seem worth the lesser functionality 
> and forcing of data manipulation in the calling space.
> 
> We use EmbPerl extensively at DejaNews and taught the minimal amounts to
> all of the HTML folks designers and programmers.  No one had any difficulty
> w/ '@' or '%' so much as the concept of an array or a hash.  That is to say
> that no one had syntactic difficulties, just structural.

EmbPerl is basically:

HTML HTML HTML 

<Cunning tag>
  Perl code, no syntactic sugar, no restrictions, do wtf you like here
</cunning tag>

MORE HTML MORE HTML MORE HTML

The phrase 'fucking stupid idea' springs immediately to mind.

There is *no* way of enforcing model/view/controller separation. No
way of limiting the capabilities of HTML monkeys to do harm, and HTML
tags can look a tad weird when you're using the toolset to, say,
generate DNS zone files. 

-- 
Piers

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