On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Roger Burton West wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 10:25:21AM +0000, Redvers Davies wrote:
> >> And we're back round the advocacy loop again. How do we get commodity
> >> certified Linux people out there? And I'm not talking about any great
> >Perhaps a more important question is - do we really want Linux and UNIX
> >admins to be commodity items?  Think rates...
>
> There are already lots of people who think they're UNIX admins from
> having installed RedHat once. The damage to rates has already been done.
> One possible good effect of a certification programme - but only if
> standards are kept high - would be to decrease the numbers.
>
> I've known quite a few MCSEs. There doesn't appear to be any
> correlation between MCSE status and actual skill, except for the people
> who got them when it was still new and difficult.

A better analogy would probably be Cisco's CCNE programme. Now that is
*hard* and the people who pass it earn $lots.

So much so that Cisco had to implement a lower level of certification as
the cost of getting CCNE was just too high. So now you have CCNA which is
not very difficult to get (about equivakent to MCSE) and and designer
certification which is not quite as hard as the CCNE.

<doom mode=on>

Unfortunately *all* the certifications are backed by vendors with vested
interests. I know of no independent certifications that carry any weight
at all.

Perl cannot compete with that (we don't have the resources) and so I
suspect we will never have a perl certification programme that is
effective.

</doom>

Simon.

-- 
"I demand to have some booze"


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