Paul, let me look into this and get back to you.
Marjan
At 3:26 AM -0700 5/30/02, Paul Makepeace wrote:
>cc: Marjan Bace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 10:59:40AM +0100, Paul Mison wrote:
>> On 30/05/2002 at 10:06 +0100, Paul Makepeace wrote:
>> >No, instead Manning collectively should be lowered onto a rough-hewn
>> >wooden spike and sacrificially burnt to be set as an example to other
> > >would-be book publishing spammers who harvest addresses from www.pm.org.
>>
>> Are you sure that's where they got the addresses from? Do you also
>
>Yes; I wouldn't be publicly accusing someone on a list with a subscriber
>base of over 300 perl programmers without some evidence... It was a
>tagged email address that only appears on www.pm.org and through which I
>have never communicated (except with the pm.org domain, possibly) nor
>submitted in a form.
>
>> regard the O'Reilly newsletter that started this thread as spam? (I
>
>The other term of course for spam is UCE, unsolicited commercial email.
>I regard any message ("email") that I didn't ask for ("unsolicited")
>that is trying to sell something ("commercial"), as UCE or spam.
>
>Having an email address on a website is *not* permission to send
>commercial material.
>
>It is telling that one of the founders of Manning, Marjan Bace has his
>email as a *graphic* on http://www.manning.com/about.html (see end),
>presumably to prevent it from being harvested from their website! And
>yet they're quite happy to use that technique to spam their "customers".
>It's a depressing state of affairs when otherwise clueful companies
>producing great products are doing this :-(
>
>Paul
>
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>
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