On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 08:11, Simon Wistow wrote: > On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 08:00:03PM +0000, Simon Wilcox said: > > What would it's *purpose* be ? > > What Aaron/Teejay was talking about (for yay, it was he), I think, was > something I bought up a while back viz that installing applications in > Perl, especially Web applications, usually involves jumping through > hoops with ExtUtils::MakeMaker and/or writing your own install script.
Interesting. This really doesn't agree with either Teejay's use.per weblog [1] where he said "how about a nice site about cool or new perl projects, kind of like freshmeat but without all the python and php crud" or Greg's idea of a Test::More branding plan. > One of the problems we had way back in the day with Acmemail was that > installing it was an arse for several reasons, namely that it required > lots of modules (one of which, Mail::Cclient, was fairly tricky to get > working) and that installing the templates, config files and index.cgi > were pretty tricky. Or, at least, involved. > > Rightly or wrongly, I suspect the reason why people like the php* family > if web apps are popular is because all you have to do is untar the > distributions, chmod a+rx and away you go. Agreed. Does php have the same central-local installation pattern that perl does ? I suspect that all php code is installed locally to the user/website that's using it, whereas perl has a root-only central installation location for most modules. Yes, I know you can install locally but it's not the default and not very well understood. > An application repository would be good for several reasons: > > o Single place to go look for Perl Apps Possibly the most important in my opinion. > o Tighter integration with CPAN/search.cpan/RT Useful but not hugely necessary > o More likely (probably) that a new backend for CPANPLUS > could be written that would allow you to just type > > % perl -MCPANPLUS -e'installapp perlMyAdmin' > > And it would work out what distribution you're using and install > things in there. Indeed but if you look at something like OpenInteract, it has a completely different installation/configuration to something like RT. I'm not sure how you would standardise that. S. [1] http://use.perl.org/~TeeJay/journal/10982
