On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 04:09:17PM +0200, Robin Berjon wrote: > Richard Clamp wrote: > >On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 02:06:36PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: > >>Dude, this is London.pm. I think you want SanFrancisco.pm. > > > >Are you sure? Remember how the typical hotel conversation goes with a > >local? > > > >Tourist: Say, where would I find a hotel here. > >Local: Sorry, I can't help - I {rent,buy,squat in} a > >{flat,house,elephant} > > My thoughts exactly, I couldn't for the life of me recommend a hotel in > Paris :) You're much better off asking a fairly large, friendly, and > beerlubbin non-local crowd.
San Francisco is definitely a city you can enjoy without using you car all the time. Disclaimer: I have not been there since 1992. My favorite place was North Beach, not far from Chinatown. In fact I enjoyed a lot Grant Street that spans both places. Lots of cafes and good italian restaurants. After spending some time at City Light, an old bookstore (http://www.citylights.com/), I liked very much to walk up the hill from there to the place where the the Coit Tower is (never went in: there is a very good vista of the city and the bay form the place itself) and down in a very scenic, greend and intimate pedestrian allay (partly wooden stairs) to the Pier 23 Bar/Restaurant with live music (my favorite day was Thursday carabean music). The most direct path to Pier 23 was not possible due to a land slide but you can handle an extra-walk. Pier 23 is a small place, not to be confused with Fisherman Wharf that is a tourist magnet. http://www.sfstation.com/bars/pier23/ enough to fill an evening, and certainly places enjoyed by european people. -- stef