Hi Bryan,

> I believe I heard the next release of OpenSuSE is going to
> enable it by default, but that -- of course -- does not
> mean any included implementation is tested or working.  It
> could just be the reference implementation, and enabler
> "beware."

No. openSUSE 11.1 (which has been released as the first beta yesterday) 
does _include_ SELinux, but it is not enabled by default. And it is just 
a "technology preview", so nothing which will be actively supported and no 
SELinux rules will be provided with the system. The same holds true for 
the upcoming SUSE Linux Enterprise 11.

> I would be less than objective to comment on Novell's future
> course, and this aforementioned comment on OpenSuSE has no
> bearing on the SLEx/NLx products.  But it does seem that
> certain changes in Novell's approach to supporting AppArmor
> may suggest they could be moving to add SELinux.  Again,
> that's totally subjective/non-objective, and people like
> Ross are in a far better position.

I'd say the reason for having SELinux in SUSE Linux is more due to some 
pressure from the US market. People in the US tend to assume there is only 
Red Hat and when they hear about other Linux distributions (e.g. SUSE) 
they often ask "What about SELinux?". I have heard a couple of times 
comments like "if you need to run Linux in a certain environment, there is 
no way to do it without SELinux". I don't know if that is true, I suspect 
it's not. And Novell laid off the whole AppArmor team a couple of months 
ago, so ...

> Hence why I commented and assumed that inclusion of SELinux
> objectives is probably something left for the next revision
> of the LPIC-1/LPIC-2 program, and based on more adoption
> outside of just Fedora/RHEL-based releases.

BTW: What about other distributions? Do they include and support SELinux? 
Debian, Ubuntu, Mandriva, etc. If they don't, I don't see a reason for 
adding this to the exam. LPI claims to be a vendor-neutral certification 
but currently it seems to me we are adding more and more Red Hat-specific 
stuff.

Thanks,

Peter

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