I oppose WG adoption of this draft.

In addition to my comments below, I am in agreement with the points made by 
Peter and Shraddha previously in this thread.

My comments below are in the context of IS-IS/RFC5316, but I believe are 
equally valid in the context of OSPF/RFC5392.

There are two types of new information the draft proposes to advertise under 
TLV 141:

1)Identifying a link by the prefix locally configured on the link rather than 
by the local/remote addresses.

The motivation for this addition seems to be to avoid the need for the operator 
to locally configure the remote address. But I think this is not a desirable 
change.

As pointed out by Peter, this does not work for unnumbered links. (It also 
would not work for Pt-2-MP links). The authors assert that it is unlikely that 
unnumbered links would be used in the expected use cases - but I do not find 
this argument convincing. Even if unnumbered links are not currently being 
used, the restriction that they could not be used in the future seems highly 
undesirable. It would put us in the position of having to revise this 
functionality in the future in an incompatible way in order to add such 
support. This is a bad design choice.

Aside: The assertion that unnumbered links will not be used seems at odds with 
the inclusion of "loopback" as a link type. More on that below.

Also, as the draft builds on top of existing RFC5316 functionality, it is still 
required to advertise remote AS Number and Remote ASBR ID as well as remote 
Router IDs (IPv4 and/or IPv6) (see 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5316#section-3.3 ) - all of which 
still need to be locally configured since there is no IGP operating on the 
link. So the suggestion that not having to configure the remote link address 
provides significant simplification in deployment does not stand up to scrutiny.

2)New link type information (AS boundary link/Loopback link/Vlan interface 
link) to be advertised

There is no mention in the draft as to how this information will be used. 
Indeed, I do not even know what a "loopback link" is unless it is an unnumbered 
link to which a loopback address has been associated - which makes me wonder 
why the authors have dismissed the use of "unnumbered" in deployments.

I therefore conclude that existing functionality defined in RFC 5316/RFC5392 is 
sufficient and there is no need for the extensions defined in this draft.

    Les

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lsr <lsr-boun...@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Christian Hopps
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> stub-link-attribu...@ietf.org
> Subject: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call for draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes-02
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for the following draft:
> 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes/
> 
> Please indicate your support or objections by January 18th, 2022.
> 
> Authors, please respond to the list indicating whether you are aware of any
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> 
> Thanks,
> Chris.
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