And, there is also another draft aims to solve the similar problem 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-cheng-lsr-ospf-adjacency-suppress-02,
 which it declares similar with the solution in IS-IS.   Why not take this 
approach?

 

 

Best Regards

 

Aijun Wang

China Telecom

 

发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 
Aijun Wang
发送时间: 2024年7月11日 17:20
收件人: 'Acee Lindem' <acee.i...@gmail.com>
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主题: [Lsr] 答复: Re: About Premature aging of LSA and Purge LSA

 

For the neighbors of the restarting router, why can’t they delete directly the 
LSAs that originated by the restarting router instead of putting them into one 
“Stale DB Exchange list” when they detect their neighbor is down?

 

发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org <mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org>  
[mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 Acee Lindem
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收件人: Aijun Wang <wangai...@tsinghua.org.cn <mailto:wangai...@tsinghua.org.cn> >
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<mailto:lsr@ietf.org> >; lsr-chairs <lsr-cha...@ietf.org 
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主题: [Lsr] Re: About Premature aging of LSA and Purge LSA

 

Yes - but the whole discussion of adjacency suppression and database 
synchronization is based on preventing TEMPORARY usage of stale LSAs leading to 
false bidirectional adjacencies during unplanned restart. RFC 2328 OSPF will 
converge without any modifications - there can just be transient traffic drops 
and/or loops. 

 

Thanks,

Acee

On Jul 9, 2024, at 20:42, Aijun Wang <wangai...@tsinghua.org.cn 
<mailto:wangai...@tsinghua.org.cn> > wrote:

 

For the unplanned restart, shouldn’t the responsibility of the directed connect 
neighbors to send out such LSAs for the purge of obsolete LSA?

 

 

Best Regards

 

Aijun Wang

China Telecom

 

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主题: [Lsr] Re: About Premature aging of LSA and Purge LSA

 

Additionally, you certainly don’t need a standards track solution to this 
problem. An implementation could honor MinLSInterval by simply locally keeping 
its own list of self-originated MaxAge LSAs and delaying reorigination.

 

Thanks,

Acee 





On Jul 9, 2024, at 04:13, Peter Psenak < <mailto:ppse...@cisco.com> 
ppse...@cisco.com> wrote:

 

Aijun,

 

On 09/07/2024 09:46, Aijun Wang wrote:

Hi, Acee:

 

Can the proposal in  
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-dong-ospf-purge-lsa-00> 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-dong-ospf-purge-lsa-00, together 
with  <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2328#section-14.1> 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2328#section-14.1(Premature aging of 
LSAs) solve your mentioned problem?

If so, is it simpler than your proposal? 

That is, before the router restart, it needs only send out the Purge LSA(when 
LSA sequence number is not to wrap) or premature aging of its LSA.(when 
sequence number is to wrap)

does not work for unplanned restart.

thanks,
Peter

 

Best Regards

 

Aijun Wang

China Telecom

 

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主题: [Lsr] Re: IETF 120 LSR Slot Requests

 

Speaking as WG member:

 

I would like a 10 minute slot to present an update to  
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hegde-lsr-ospf-better-idbx/> 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hegde-lsr-ospf-better-idbx/

 

Thanks,

Acee






On Jun 25, 2024, at 14:19, Yingzhen Qu < <mailto:yingzhen.i...@gmail.com> 
yingzhen.i...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Hi,


The draft agenda for IETF 120 has been posted:

 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/120/agenda/> IETF 120 Meeting Agenda

 

The LSR session is scheduled on Friday Session I1 9:30 - 11:30, July 26, 2024.

 

Please send slot requests to  <mailto:lsr-cha...@ietf.org> lsr-cha...@ietf.org 
before the end of the day Wednesday July 10th.  Please include draft name and 
link, presenter, desired slot length including Q&A. 

 

Please note that having a discussion on the LSR mailing list is a prerequisite 
for a draft presentation in the WG session. If you need any help please reach 
out to the chairs.

 

Thanks,

Yingzhen

 

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