I read that Riot.im was down in April due to a Matrix hack. https://www.zdnet.com/article/matrix-hack-forces-servers-offline-user-credentials-leaked/
Aryt On Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 3:14 PM Petter Ericson <[email protected]> wrote: > On 24 juni, 2019 - axel simon wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 10:17:02PM -0700, Yosem Companys wrote: > > > Discord: what Facebook is trying to become. > > > > https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/03/how-discord-went-mainstream-influencers/584671/ > > > > > > Why to switch from Google Chrome to Mozilla Firefox. > > > > https://www.siliconvalley.com/2019/06/21/google-chrome-has-become-surveillance-software-its-time-to-switch/ > > > > > > > Hi, > > Discord is interesting in that it's popular and offers people the > possibility to have their own community (which they call "server", I > believe), but there's nothing free and open source about it. > > As of this writing, Discord has, as if to prove this point, been globally > unavailable due to Cloudflare issues. > > > Matrix, and its main client Riot, are much more interesting to me > currently, as they are (ambitiously) trying to solve multiple problems at > once: a modern chat system, with voice and video and file sharing, with > end-to-end cryptography, while maintaining a decentralised network > architecture so that anyone can run their own instance, join and federate > with the rest. > > Well, to harp on about long lost battles - XMPP did it first. I firmly > believe that if all the effort spent on Matrix clients had instead been put > into improving XMPP, then it would far surpass the current standards of > both. Even so, XMPP is the protocol with several independent and mutually > compatible server _and_ client implementations, as well a well-established > protocol (and protocol extension process). > > > Current versions of Riot might not be entirely as slick as Discord, but > they are getting better and they are very usable. > > Incidently, Matrix has bridges to connect to other chat network (and > ideally, bridge them together, hence the name), and can bridge to Discord. > So there's a possibility of getting everyone to play nice with each other. > > Bridging has, time and again, shown itself to be a Much Harder Problem > than may be apparent, with massive amounts of boring corner cases and > exceptions. We'll see. > > > > Regarding Firefox vs. Chrome, Firefox has been the only browser (with > any relevant market share) that isn't the product of a for profit company > for a while. While Mozilla have made questionable descisions at time (and > outright mistakes at others), that alone should be a strong argument to > consider where one gets their browser from. I recall reading a statement in > an article around Chrome's release about 10 years ago by then-CEO Eric > Schmidt explaining that at the end of the day, if you want to be able to > really control and see what users are doing, you need your own browser. > This was when people couldn't quite understand why Google would build its > own browser when Firefox had manage to end the Internet Explorer dead lock > and they had a good relationship. > > That passage really stayed with me (and if anyone were to find it, I'd > be very greatful, I can't seem to do so). > > > > So yes, it's not that surprising that, when push comes to shove, the > engineering teams working on Chrome have to bow to the business priorities > of Google, the world's (more or less) biggest advertisement company. > > I'm in complete agreement. > > > Cheers, > > > > axel > > > > -- > > axel simon > > mail/matrix: [email protected] > > twitter: @axelsimon > > > > -- > > Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable from any major > commercial search engine. Violations of list guidelines will get you > moderated: https://lists.ghserv.net/mailman/listinfo/lt. Unsubscribe, > change to digest mode, or change password by emailing > [email protected]. > > -- > Petter Ericson ([email protected]) > > -- > Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable from any major > commercial search engine. Violations of list guidelines will get you > moderated: https://lists.ghserv.net/mailman/listinfo/lt. Unsubscribe, > change to digest mode, or change password by emailing > [email protected].
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