who said in all what you have mentioned they are secure not evil? apple and google not evil? proprietary hardware backdoors not evil?

so yes, just because something is PROPRIETARY it is EVIL , and first harm its doing which is locking user freedom not to mention censorship and ..etc

We can say proprietary harmfulness can be from 1 - 10 but there is no 0 , all of them are harmful.

Nice collection to look at for e.g:

https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/

Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes:
bo0od,

Apple is PROPRIETARY
Most computer hardware is PROPRIETARY
Google stuff is PROPRIETARY
Most Internet Service Providers available to most people are VERY PROPRIETARY

So, in that context, your comment seems to be moot. Just because something is 
PROPRIETARY doesn’t mean it’s EVIL INCARNATE. It may not be perfect, it 
certainly will have many flaws, some of them serious, but I bet and confirm in 
my personal experience that it also has many positives.

Regards / Saludos / Grato

Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes

On Apr 8, 2020, at 12:52 PM, bo0od <[email protected]> wrote:

what a stupid discussion. To make it smart one first FREE SOFTWARE THE APP!! 
then we talk about smartness , security , privacy...etc

Zoom is PROPRIETARY based in USA.

Yosem Companys:
tform and his
willingness to take aggressive action to get there. He asked if I would be
interested in helping Zoom build up its security, privacy and

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