one clarification on proprietary phone: :p
Yes all well known are either fully proprietary like IOS or parts of it
like Android (like firmwares). (There are other OSs as well but all
running into one of these categories)
Though there are good effort been done toward GNU/Linux Phone like:
Librem5: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/
PinePhone: https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/
To be fair about android there is only one fork of it which uses fully
free software which is called Replicant:
https://www.replicant.us/
Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes:
Well, that’s wonderful man, and don’t take it the wrong way, it was just a
witness account of the facts..
I actually thought it was very cool that there was an open source
videoconferencing platform that people would want to use for their business!
Please remind us a bit about Jitsi, the critical aspect for me (beyond the
security/encryption thing of course!🤠😈) is that it wouldn’t require any special
“app” to be downloaded for people to participate (which I think it does if my
memory serves me wel), and that it would have an easy option for people to just
call in without the video, and of course that both video and call-in would be
available through a properly equipped (most likely PROPRIETARY🤠) smart phone.
Thanks!
Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato,
Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes
<[email protected]>
+1 (347) 766-5008
On Apr 8, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Aaron van Meerten <[email protected]>
wrote:
We like to think we’ve gotten much better in the past 2 years. We’d encourage
you to try Jitsi again, as our architecture as well as videobridge SFU codebase
have both improved quite a bit.
If you still don’t like, we’d be happy to take feedback and try to continue to
improve the platform, both on our own flagship (https://meet.jit.si/
<https://meet.jit.si/>) but also for anyone to deploy and run for themselves.
Cheers,
-Aaron
On Apr 8, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
OK granted they’re evil, just like the McDonalds hamburger you eat every once
in a while, or the car you drive around and its carbon footprint. But not EVIL
INCARNATE! 😈🤠
And my two cents on alternative platforms like Jitsi: between 2 and 3 years ago
I had a series of videoconferences regarding employment with a supercool
company **NOT EVEN EVIL!😈** and they were through JITSI. Not a pleasant
experience. Now imagine that platform suddenly having to deliver to millions if
not billions of people online in remote classes, meetings, chats, etc etc..
Granted, it was 2+ years ago, but nothing gets super better in that time lapse
anygüeys.
Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato,
Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
+1 (347) 766-5008
On Apr 8, 2020, at 1:35 PM, bo0od <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
who said in all what you have mentioned they are secure not evil? apple and
google not evil? proprietary hardware backdoors not evil?
so yes, just because something is PROPRIETARY it is EVIL , and first harm its
doing which is locking user freedom not to mention censorship and ..etc
We can say proprietary harmfulness can be from 1 - 10 but there is no 0 , all
of them are harmful.
Nice collection to look at for e.g:
https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/ <https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/>
Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes:
bo0od,
Apple is PROPRIETARY
Most computer hardware is PROPRIETARY
Google stuff is PROPRIETARY
Most Internet Service Providers available to most people are VERY PROPRIETARY
So, in that context, your comment seems to be moot. Just because something is
PROPRIETARY doesn’t mean it’s EVIL INCARNATE. It may not be perfect, it
certainly will have many flaws, some of them serious, but I bet and confirm in
my personal experience that it also has many positives.
Regards / Saludos / Grato
Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes
On Apr 8, 2020, at 12:52 PM, bo0od <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
what a stupid discussion. To make it smart one first FREE SOFTWARE THE APP!!
then we talk about smartness , security , privacy...etc
Zoom is PROPRIETARY based in USA.
Yosem Companys:
tform and his
willingness to take aggressive action to get there. He asked if I would be
interested in helping Zoom build up its security, privacy and
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