Hey Doug, PLEASE, I’d like a simple example of, not even the plural you used, 
but a single one: “governments [that] are all acting on our behalf, which may 
actually be true in some locations in the world!!!"

Besides, there is a huge difference between “planning in secret” (BTW, the 
usual rule in ALL of the FIRST WORLD) and issues of encryption..😈

Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato,

Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes
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> On Apr 9, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Doug Schuler <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> This is in no way to argue against security and the ability to keep organized 
> crime  from going where they don't belong — especially for financial 
> transactions and private information. On the other hand the line "Our 
> governments and their officials should plan in secret" seems to strengthen 
> the hand of despotic governments. It seems to imply that these governments 
> are all acting on our behalf, which may actually be true in some locations in 
> the world. I believe that government is absolutely necessary but without 
> transparency things are hopeless. In fact, maybe the new emphasis on 
> conferencing *could* help open things up.   I'm in a foul humor because I 
> live in the US and yes, "our" government does try very hard to "plan in 
> secret."
> 
> — Doug
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 9:58 AM Tim McNamara <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Hi all, keen to receive any feedback on this blog post I'm drafting...
> 
> Billions of reasons why officials should not trust Zoom
> 
> This year has seen governments take unprecedented action to defeat the 
> world's most significant public health threat in over a century. Much of that 
> action involves money. Lots of money.
> 
> Officials and politicians deciding on economic stimulus packages around have 
> a problem: they can't talk face-to-face behind closed doors like they're used 
> to. Instead, they're turning to technology. Many of these services have 
> unproven security credentials. Using insecure tools will allow the worst 
> elements in our societies to benefit from the crisis.
> 
> Starting now, there is an increased financial incentive to break into video 
> conferencing systems. Billions, perhaps trillions, of dollars of subsidy 
> money will be provided by governments around the world. That money will be 
> unevenly spread. Many companies will fall. Some will not.
> 
> Organised criminals and hostile nation-states have significant technological 
> resources. They are well placed to exploit misplaced trust in computer 
> systems. Our governments and their officials should plan in secret. 
> Guaranteed secrecy while decisions are being made is the best way to keep 
> economies alive.
> 
> Governments should consider hosting their own video conferencing platform. 
> Open-source tools such as Jitsi Meet, BigBlueButton and Apache OpenMeetings 
> can all be deployed cost-effectively and securely behind a firewall. Perhaps 
> most importantly, they don't require meeting participants to install anything 
> onto their computer.
> 
> Deploying these open source video conferencing technologies provides multiple 
> benefits. The security within the system can be validated. Staff managing the 
> service can be vetted. Data can stay local. Most importantly though, secrets 
> can stay secret.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Original https://cloud.nzoss.nz/s/F2r3rDZsEaypKNf 
> <https://cloud.nzoss.nz/s/F2r3rDZsEaypKNf>
> 
> 
> Tim McNamara
> Vice President, New Zealand Open Source Society
> Author, Rust in Action
> https://tim.mcnamara.nz <https://tim.mcnamara.nz/> | @timClicks 
> <http://twitter.com/timClicks> 
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