Sealand. On 4/9/20 2:54 PM, Yosem Companys wrote: > Probably the small ones: Estonia, for example. > > > > On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 6:52 PM, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: > > __ Hey Doug, PLEASE, I’d like a simple example of, not even the > plural you used, but a single one: “governments [that] are all > acting on our behalf, *which may actually be true in some locations > in the world!!!"* > > Besides, there is a huge difference between “planning in secret” > (BTW, the usual rule in ALL of the FIRST WORLD) and issues of > encryption..😈 > > Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato, > > Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > +1 (347) 766-5008 > >> On Apr 9, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Doug Schuler >> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> This is in no way to argue against security and the ability to >> keep organized crime from going where they don't belong — >> especially for financial transactions and private information. On >> the other hand the line "Our governments and their officials >> should plan in secret" seems to strengthen the hand of despotic >> governments. It seems to imply that these governments are all >> acting on our behalf, which may actually be true in some locations >> in the world. I believe that government is absolutely necessary >> but without transparency things are hopeless. In fact, maybe the >> new emphasis on conferencing *could* help open things up. I'm in >> a foul humor because I live in the US and yes, "our" government >> does try very hard to "plan in secret." >> >> — Doug >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 9:58 AM Tim McNamara >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, keen to receive any feedback on this blog post I'm >> drafting... >> >> >> Billions of reasons why officials should not trust Zoom >> >> This year has seen governments take unprecedented action to >> defeat the world's most significant public health threat in >> over a century. Much of that action involves money. Lots of money. >> >> Officials and politicians deciding on economic stimulus >> packages around have a problem: they can't talk face-to-face >> behind closed doors like they're used to. Instead, they're >> turning to technology. Many of these services have unproven >> security credentials. Using insecure tools will allow the >> worst elements in our societies to benefit from the crisis. >> >> Starting now, there is an increased financial incentive to >> break into video conferencing systems. Billions, perhaps >> trillions, of dollars of subsidy money will be provided by >> governments around the world. That money will be unevenly >> spread. Many companies will fall. Some will not. >> >> Organised criminals and hostile nation-states have significant >> technological resources. They are well placed to exploit >> misplaced trust in computer systems. Our governments and their >> officials should plan in secret. Guaranteed secrecy while >> decisions are being made is the best way to keep economies alive. >> >> Governments should consider hosting their own video >> conferencing platform. Open-source tools such as Jitsi Meet, >> BigBlueButton and Apache OpenMeetings can all be deployed >> cost-effectively and securely behind a firewall. Perhaps most >> importantly, they don't require meeting participants to >> install anything onto their computer. >> >> Deploying these open source video conferencing technologies >> provides multiple benefits. The security within the system can >> be validated. Staff managing the service can be vetted. Data >> can stay local. Most importantly though, secrets can stay secret. >> >> >> >> >> Original https://cloud.nzoss.nz/s/F2r3rDZsEaypKNf >> >> >> *Tim McNamara* >> Vice President, New Zealand Open Source Society >> Author, Rust in Action >> https://tim.mcnamara.nz <https://tim.mcnamara.nz/> | >> @timClicks <http://twitter.com/timClicks> >> >> -- >> Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable from any >> major commercial search engine. Violations of list guidelines >> will get you moderated: >> https://lists.ghserv.net/mailman/listinfo/lt. 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