I left a message with Brooke this morning. When she returns my call, I will
ask her to work out details with you. I will give her your business address
and phone number from the ELB website.

Tom

At 01:13 PM 12/11/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Tom,
> 1) Support - Yes, "I" and my associates and any other volunteers... :-)
>
> 2) Cost - Yes I can help within reason.
>
> 3) Vendor - I'm not sure about this. It sounded like Brooke was going to
run her own 'stuff' regardless of what we do. We probably need to clarify
this.
>
> 4) Wireless - Cool then at the very least we'll have wireless sponsored
by the LTSP
>
> 5) If it is ok with Brooke yes I'd be glad to chat as claify how we can
help.
>
>Pete
>
>
>
>Tom Brown wrote:
>> 
>> 1) Support - I assume you mean that you personally will be at LinuxWorld at
>> the LTSP booth. Unfortunately I can't attend; too expensive, nowhere to
>> stay, etc.
>> 
>> 2) Cost - I assume you mean that "we" is you or your company, and you will
>> handle the network hardware (cabling, switch, power strips, nics). If you
>> are not supplying the gear, then we need to find other donors. There is the
>> issue of where to put the gear. Brooke was hesitant to commit to additional
>> tables.
>> 
>> 4) Vendor - By vendor I believe Brooke means the Jacob Javits Center or
>> whomever the Center hires to do the pressroom. She didn't mention a
>> manufacturer such as HP, only "Operations." Do you have an LTSP server that
>> can reasonably handle up to 12 workstations? There are 5-6 PCs and 1 Mac
>> already in the pressroom. If we add another 6 diskless workstations, then
>> the server would power 6-12 workstations depending on whether the pressroom
>> vendor is willing to go along.
>> 
>> 5) Wireless - This sounds like a deal maker. Brooke is very interested in
>> wireless LAN access in the pressroom. She said Doc Searls loaned her a WAP
>> at a recent show. She was embarassed but the journalists liked the easy
>> access.
>> 
>> Showcase LTSP - Good questions. I have no ready answers. Perhaps a mix of
>> workstations from Pentium 90-166 (if they have decent video), contemporary

>> PCs and Jammin-125's would be a good demonstration. The reduced noise
would
>> be evident.
>> 
>> Who has workstations we can borrow? Maybe Jim has an inventory of demo
>> models he can bring. But does he have monitors, keyboards, mice? I have
>> plenty of donated P90 and a few P133 boxes from our community tech center
>> project. The video subsystems are not great, mostly old 1024k S3s. Also
>> have a supply of well used 15" monitors stashed in a garage. But few
>> keyboards, no mice and no nics. Not sure how to get this stuff to the
>> convention center if we need to use it -- our project is all volunteer and
>> no money.
>> 
>> Should I hand Brooke off to you, Peter?
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> > 1) Support - Should not be a problem. Just need to be sure to schedule
>> between booth and Press Room
>> >
>> > 2) Cost - Also should not be a problem since we can provide labor and
>> should be able to supply any needed hardware (i.e. cabling, switch, etc.)
>> >
>> > 3) Reliability - Definitely not a problem!
>> >
>> > 4) Vendor - Can Brooke ask the vendor if they would be interested? This
>> is probably vendor specific. If the vendor is, say, Compaq or HP this would
>> be a great way to showcase their hardware if it is Computer Associates
well...
>> >
>> > 5) Wireless - I have a HP WAP I can donate to the effort. If they are
>> only going to have a T-1 annd only service one room, one WAP would be
plenty.
>> >
>> >  Since we wouldn't be replacing the press room network, I am not sure how
>> we can showcase LTSP effectively. Most of the benefits to LTSP are "behind
>> the scenes" - i.e. low end clients, ease of maintaining the system, etc. -
>> how do we showcase this? Do we go with ratty old clients to show how well
>> it works or slick looking Jammin-125s or maybe a compilation of clients to
>> show that it looks and performs the same regardless of what you use?
>> >
>> 
>> >  I think the key is who the vendor is and if they are open to the idea.
>> >
>> >Pete
>> >--
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>> >
>> >
>> >Tom Brown wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Spoke to Brooke Selby on phone. Here's the deal. The pressroom is
>> >> handled by a vendor, either the Jacob Javits Center itself or an outside
>> >> supplier. The Operations staff at the convention center work with Brooke
>> >> on her specs for the pressroom. Her specs are determined by her
>> >> budget, and she can't exceed budget.
>> >>
>> >> Brooke will decide whether the project is feasible based on these
concerns:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Support - must have LTSP support onsite 24/7 during show.
>> >> 2. Cost - cannot add to her costs.
>> >> 3. Reliability - LTSP system cannot fail for more than a few minutes.
>> >> 4. Vendor - pressroom vendor must be willing to go along with adding
>> >> LTSP to their network. The LTSP network will be in addition to the
>> >> vendor's pressroom network, not replace it. Vendor may not allow us
>> >> to boot their boxes as LTSP clients.
>> >> 5. Wireless - #1 request from journalists is wireless access.
>> >>

>> >> Additional information.
>> >>
>> >> Media: 180 journalists at show; 12 in press room at any given time;
>> >> 50 in press room during peak times (lunch, dinner). Many want to
>> >> connect their laptops to the LAN via nics or wireless rather than
>> >> wait for terminal.
>> >>
>> >> LAN: yes; 1-2 printers on lan, orders 1 printer and adds another
>> >> if demand requires it; usually 4 spare ethernet cables for folks
>> >> to plug into their laptops; not sure of speed, either ISDN or T1, she's
>> >> checking with Operations
>> >>
>> >> Computer Equipment: 5-6 dual boot PCs (Lin/Win); some version of RedHat;
>> >> Operations says they can install any version of RedHat specified;
>> >> 1 Mac; no idea whether switch or hub or speed of LAN
>> >>
>> >> Tables/Electric Service: tables cost money and have to be ordered
>> >> in advance, doesn't really want to order more tables; no idea of
>> >> electrical service, probably per spec, which affects budget
>> >>
>> >> Wireless: None. Brooke's #1 request is wireless access for pressroom.
>> >> She has no budget for it.
>> >>
>> >> Dial-up: There are several phone lines available for dialup access.
>> >>
>> >> What'ya think?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Tom
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