ok, this is in response to Marty's gracious help for me...

I am using a 3c905c-tpo NIC not an integrated chipset

I have tried the following:
Downloaded a lzrom and lzpxe image from rom-o-matic

I installed the etherboot source and the vortex-diag stuff on my linux
server...
I ran the make commands on the directories to get the utilities.

using cromutil:
  it sees the NIC and can backup the image and erase them but cannot program
them. After the erase it leaves the ROM blank...useless for me.

using vortex-diag:
  it sees the  NIC and can read, id , erase and program the ROM chips..so
this looks good and was verified with a vortex-diag -B...the etherboot code
shows up..all good right? no
I install the NIC in the pc, set the the bios to boot from network and let
it go..well nothing happens, it just boots from the first available device..

using pxe to etherboot:
    ok, I just tested this by reflashing the NIC with the 3com MBA code and
using the mbaconfig utility I set the NIC to use PXE and make the nic the
first boot device...
Because I just wanted to test this I put the lzpxe image in the tftp server
in the tftproot directory and I use win2k DHCP so I changed the image file
to the 3c905.lzpxe file.
I boot the pc and it boots from the NIC and displays the PXE boot code then
pulls the dhcp info..then it just stops....does not load the image from the
tftp server...doesn't even look like its getting the tftp info..

ltsp
 I am not using ltsp I am using the thinstation.nbi code because it works
great from floppy and requires very little setup...I read the setup stuff
and thought if my nic would pull the code from the tftp server and just load
the lzpxe file then I would config a unix dhcp server and test the next
step. but since I can't get tpast the first part, I am stuck again...

any ideas? am I just not getting this or am I trying to make these
3c905c-tpo cards work and they won't?

thanks, Brian




Marty Connor wrote:

> On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 12:56  PM, brian delaney wrote:
> > excellent response...thanks...but
> > when I run cromutil i am able to backup the NIC and erase it. when I
> > try to program it it just hangs and I donot get any response....so now
> > what?
> > yes, I verified the address using CAT.........
>
> Wait a moment.  Is this a PCI NIC, or is this an integrated NIC on a
> motherboard?
>
> If this is one of those NICs that is integrated onto a motherboard,
> then cromutil and ether-diag will likely not work. That is because
> whereas the PCI card has a piece of flash memory on it that is
> accessible and programmable, there MBA code for the motherboard is
> probably in the system BIOS flash, which is a very different thing. If
> the PXE code is part of the BIOS flash, you probably want to use the
> PXE->Etherboot chaining method, which was "Door Number 3" in my
> previous message, or alternatively PXELINUX, which was "Door Number 2"
>
> So, what's the deal? Is this a PCI NIC card, or is this one of those
> "DELL/random-other-vendor deals where the NIC has no flash, but is has
> the PCI IDs of a card that does have flash, but the actual flash code
> is in the BIOS because, well we had room there, and we are a large
> enough vendor to get the special OEM version of the 3COM card, and
> permission to embed the MBA in our BIOS" kind of situations.
>
> You can still use Etherboot, but flashing would require modifying your
> BIOS, which is harder, and is a different process. We have people on
> the list who have replaced PXE with Etherboot in various BIOSes, but
> it's not an easy thing to do, and you might be better off using a
> different method to achieve the result. Which is what the .lzpxe/.zpxe
> formats are all about.
>
> Anyway, let us know...
>
> Marty
>
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