Jesse,

thanks, with your help, I'm halfway home.  I made the changes you
suggested, and sound plays fine from the clients (using xmms, clients
are IBM PC350) while running the linux desktop.  However, when I set
screen_01 to rdesktop, the sound no longer plays (win 2003 server).  

I had assumed once the sound was working from the clients under linux
that would be the end of my troubles...wrong.  Anyway, my lts.conf now
looks like:

[ws001]
        ...
        SOUND         = Y
        SOUND_DAEMON  = esd
        VOLUME        = 75
        MIC_VOLUME    = 100
        CD_VOLUME     = 75
        SMODULE_01    = "sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330"
        SCREEN_01     = rdesktop
        X_MODE_0      = 800x600

I needed to add the quotes because it was giving me a parse error
without them. 

Thanks again for your help, couldn't have gotten this far otherwise.  If
you have anymore suggestions, I'm all ears.




On Sun, 2004-05-30 at 06:52, Jesse McDonnell wrote:
> On Sat, 29 May 2004 15:51:16 -0500
> curtis sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for the help.  I'm new so bare with me please.
> > I was unable to determine what type of module should be loaded for the
> > soundcard (soundblaster awe32 pnp ide). Clients do not have cdroms.  
> > 
> > The normal boot process gives me the messages:
> > Running sound server
> > sound driver not loaded, specify in /opt/ltsp/...
> > 
> > When I run "cat /proc/lspci" (or just lspci) from the client while
> > logged in as root with Tom's Root Boot Disk, I get the message, "file
> > not found".
> > 
> > How do determine what module to use for the soundcard(s) installed.
> > 
> 
> Curtis,
> 
> 
> You didn't specify in your first email the type of soundcard you had in your clients 
> and I was hoping it was pci since they are generally much easier to get working. 
> Your soundblaster awe32 pnp ide is an ISA card, so let's try the following:
> 1) turn off pnp for the card - there may be a jumper on the card and/or you may have 
> to disable PnP in the BIOS (what type of machine is the client?)
> 2) use esd instead of nasd  in lts.conf 
> 3) try the generic line for ISA souncards in lts.conf. Comment out all other 
> SMODULE_nn lines. I don't have ISA sound here and my pci-based sound works fine so I 
> haven't tried this myself  but the relevant section in my lts.conf is: 
> 
> ### For ISA sound cards, you have to specify the module to use:
>         # SMODULE_01       = sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1
>  
> Remove the # from before  SMODULE_01.....
> 
> Let us know what happens - if this doesn't work include full error messages when the 
> client attempts to load sound modules -  and congratulations on the troubleshooting 
> you've done so far. If you've got a spare pci soundcard handy you can probably have 
> sound autodetected - this may be an option if you're just trying to get sound on a 
> couple of clients. If you've got a whole raft of identical machines with ISA sound 
> then the time spent figuring out your first machine should pay dividends in the long 
> run.
> 
> Jesse
> 
> 
> > 
> > On Sat, 2004-05-29 at 05:53, Jesse McDonnell wrote: 
> > > Curtis,
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 28 May 2004 08:58:42 -0500
> > > curtis sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Sorry to bother you.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm having problems with sound, could you be of assistance?
> > > > Currently, the clients can control the sound, and sound only comes from
> > > > the server.
> > > > 
> > > > After running rpm -qa |grep esound I get the following output:
> > > >         esound-0.2.31-1
> > > >         ltsp_esound_i386-0.6-k12ltsp.3.4.0
> > > >         esound-devel-0.2.31-1
> > > >         ltsp_esound_server-0.6-k12ltsp.2.4.0
> > > > 
> > > > The sound section of my lts.conf file looks like:
> > > > 
> > > > [ws001]
> > > >         ...
> > > >         SOUND              = Y
> > > >         SOUND_DAEMON       = nasd
> > > >         VOLUME             = 75
> > > >         MIC_VOLUME         = 100
> > > >         CD_VOLUME          = 75
> > > >         SMODULE_01         = soundcore
> > > >         SMODULE_02         = es1371
> > > >         SMODULE_03         = i810_audio
> > > > 
> > > > How do I specify the correct modules on the client machine?
> > > 
> > > What type of soundcard is on the client?  First, try commenting out all three 
> > > SMODULE_ lines in your lts.conf - simultaneously loading modules for different 
> > > sound cards is not a good idea!  If you have a pci soundcard or onboard sound on 
> > > the client it will quite likely be autodetected. Watch what happens when it 
> > > tries to load sound modules at boot time and post any warnings here. If the 
> > > sound modules don't load, try running a knoppix cd on the client to see what 
> > > card is autodetcted.  If you don't have a cd-rom on the client boot with a 
> > > rescue floppy - Tom's Root Boot floppy is excellent and should be part of your 
> > > linux toolbox - and look at the output of cat /proc/lspci to see what soundcard 
> > > you have.
> > > 
> > > I've cc'd this reply to the ltsp-discuss list. Please keep the discussion on the 
> > > list so that others can contribute and benefit.
> > > 
> > > Good luck!
> > > 
> > > Jesse McDonnell 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Obviously I'm a newbie, so any help would be appreciated.
> > > > thanks.
> > > > 
> > > > Curtis
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 18:26, Jesse McDonnell wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 17 May 2004 11:44:30 +0530 (IST)
> > > > > Ashwin Gami _00007020_ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Dear Friend
> > > > > > Thanks for your suggestions
> > > > > > I followed as you mentioned and now that error has gone
> > > > > > Now I can run these audio applications on clients and it plays file also 
> > > > > > without error 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > But now problem is that sound comes from server and not from the client 
> > > > > > where we run audio
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ashwin,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Glad the suggestion was helpful. I haven't used Mandrake since installing 
> > > > > version 7.2 briefly, but I seem to remember reading here (or on the K12OSN 
> > > > > board) that they use (used?)  artsd to handle sound. Perhaps someone with 
> > > > > recent experience will join in with some pointers that are 
> > > > > Mandrake-specific.  
> > > > > Meanwhile, here are some general troubleshooting suggestions:
> > > > > 
> > > > > First, did you download and install the esound package from the ltsp 
> > > > > website?  If so, were there any errors produced when the esound package was 
> > > > > installed/configured?  The fact that you are loading (sound) modules 
> > > > > suggests to me that the package was installed but verify by running  rpm -qa 
> > > > > | grep esound. This should produce some output if you have the esound 
> > > > > package installed.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > I see from your earlier email in this thread that you have the line SOUND = 
> > > > > Y in your lts.conf file.  You may also need to specify the sound daemon to 
> > > > > be used  in the lts.conf file. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > SOUND_DAEMON =  "esd"
> > > > > or
> > > > > SOUND_DAEMON = "nasd"
> > > > > or
> > > > > SOUND_DAEMON = "artsd"'
> > > > > 
> > > > > Here's some relevant lines from from the global section of  the lts.conf 
> > > > > file on my system, K12LTSP based on Fedora Core.
> > > > > 
> > > > > # enable sound by default
> > > > >         SOUND              = Y
> > > > >         # choose either esd or nasd to be the default
> > > > > #SOUND_DAEMON       = "nasd"
> > > > >          SOUND_DAEMON     = "esd"
> > > > >  
> > > > >         # default sound volume
> > > > >         VOLUME             = 75
> > > > >  
> > > > >         ### For ISA sound cards, you have to specify the module to use:
> > > > >         # SMODULE_01       = sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1
> > > > >  
> > > > > If you try out these suggestions and you still don't have sound on the 
> > > > > client, try (re)running the esound install script (install.sh). 
> > > > >  
> > > > > Hope this helps!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Jesse McDonnell
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Please someone post your valuable suggestions
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > With best regards,
> > > > > > Ashvin.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Sun, 16 May 2004, Jesse McDonnell wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Sun, 16 May 2004 20:21:11 +0530 (IST)
> > > > > > > Ashwin Gami _00007020_ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Dear friend
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > thanx for your valuable suggestions
> > > > > > > > i copied aumix binaries in ltsp tree and also changed
> > > > > > > > aumix-minimal to aumix in rc.sound
> > > > > > > > Now its loading modules and not giving any error while booting
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > but when i start audio application like realplayer or totem
> > > > > > > > its gives error like can not open the audio device, other application
> > > > > > > > may be using it and audio output is not available.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > One possible reason for this error is incorrect permissions on /dev/dsp 
> > > > > > > and /dev/mixer.  If the user starting the application doesn't have 
> > > > > > > read-write access to these devices you will get the error message you 
> > > > > > > described. 
> > > > > > > ls -al /dev/dsp /dev/mixer will show you the permission settings on 
> > > > > > > /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer.   As root, chmod a+rw /dev/dsp /dev/mixer.  Be 
> > > > > > > aware that this gives all users read-write access and may have security 
> > > > > > > implications if you are on an exposed network.  
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > A more secure solution would be to change the group owner of these 
> > > > > > > devices to audio and add any users needing to use audio applications to 
> > > > > > > this group.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Good luck!
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Jesse McDonnell
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Do I need to run audio application as local application (will it 
> > > > > > > > work???)
> > > > > > > > or there is another way
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > Please I need your suggestions
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > > Ashvin
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Sun, 16 May 2004, Primero wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Sun, 16 May 2004 11:32:32 +0530 (IST), Ashwin Gami _00007020_  
> > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > I am using ltsp 4 with mandrake 10
> > > > > > > > > > I added line SOUND = Y in lts.conf
> > > > > > > > > > it seems to load some modules also
> > > > > > > > > > also it says aumix-minimal not found
> > > > > > > > > > finally sound is not working on clients
> > > > > > > > > > will I be able to do it??
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > About aumix-minimal i think ther is a typo in the script since i 
> > > > > > > > > have  
> > > > > > > > > aumix executable only. install it on your ltsp server and copy it to 
> > > > > > > > > the  
> > > > > > > > > LTSP cliente directory, then change the name of the file in rc.sound 
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > script.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Bye
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
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