Thank you very much.  That's good to know.

I'll definitely check it out.  I probably never would have seriously 
considered it before your posts today.  Now you have managed to pique my 
interest.

I might even download it tonight and put it on my workstation tomorrow.

Thanks again.

fp


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim McQuillan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Father Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Which version of Ubuntu should we use for LTSP?


>
>
> Father Peter wrote:
>> Dear Jim,
>>
>> Thank you for your reply.
>>
>>
>>> I would go with the server version, and then install the
>>> 'ubuntu-desktop' package which should take care of getting all the stuff
>>> you need for workstation users. You could alternatively install the
>>> 'kubuntu-desktop' to get KDE or 'xubuntu-desktop' to get xfce.
>>>
>>
>> This is *exactly* what I mean by having to learn new names for things in
>> Ubuntu.  Is there a glossary someplace, to translate the names they use? 
>> Or
>> are there in actuality, not that many to deal with?
>>
> They didn't rename anything.  'kubuntu-desktop' is a "meta package".
> Installing it will force the installation of a whole bunch of things,
> including the 'kde' package.
>
> You could still just install 'kde' if you want, but if you want all the
> goodies that people like for a desktop distribution, you'd really want
> to just install the meta package.
>
> It's there for convenience, not to trip people up.
>
>> I was very surprised to learn that you use Ubuntu.  I had not really 
>> taken
>> it that seriously, and have been waiting to see if it was going to have 
>> any
>> kind of longevity, or whether it was going to be just another distro that
>> comes in with a splash, and then just kind of disappears into oblivion; 
>> or
>> gets bought out by some mammoth company that turns around and ruins it. 
>> (I
>> hope that doesn't happen with the Novell/SuSE buyout.)
>>
>> With your experience with the Ubuntu developers, do you have the 
>> impression
>> that it will be around for while?  Do you have any insights about this? 
>> Or
>> should I rather ask, what is your impression of Ubuntu, having used it 
>> for a
>> while?  (If you don't have time, or would rather not answer that, I
>> understand.)
>>
>
> Ubuntu is a VERY serious distribution that, in my opinion, will be
> around for a long time to come.
>
> I've been to two of their developer meetings (Syndey and Montreal), and
> I'll be at the next meeting in Paris starting the 18th of June.  Their
> meetings are typically 5 or 6 days of VERY intense planning and
> designing of their next release.  Everything is spec'd out, so that once
> the meeting is over, projects can be assigned to developers, and they
> know exactly what's expected of them.
>
> I've also been to other distro developer meetings, and Ubuntu is by far,
> the most organized.  With other distros, it's hard to even figure out
> who's leading the project.  With Ubuntu, it's VERY clear that Mark
> Shuttleworth is heading the organization, and Matt Zimmerman is the guy
> making sure that things make technical sense.
>
> Shuttleworth is funding Ubuntu, including flying 70 developers to their
> dev meetings every 6 months, in places all over the world.  That's some
> serious money being poured into this.  On top of that, they are building
> a customer support center in Montreal, to handle professional support.
> Doesn't sound like a fly-by-nite operation to me.
>
>
> Jim.
>
> 


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