On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 08:10:13PM -0800, Vagrant Cascadian wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 07:05:29PM -0500, Rob Owens wrote:
> > I haven't tried using LTSP fat client mode yet -- ltsp-server 5.2.4-2 in
> > Debian backports doesn't seem to support that yet.  
> 
> it definitely has support for it, just not an explicit ltsp-build-client 
> commandline
> option:
> 
>   ltsp-build-client --late-packages "$desktop_environment_or_window_manager 
> $other_apps"
> 
> alternately, after you've already built an LTSP chroot:
> 
>   sudo ltsp-chroot apt-get install $desktop_environment_or_window_manager 
> $other_apps
> 
> in either case, then set LTSP_FATCLIENT=true in lts.conf. that's pretty much
> it.
> 
Great news!  Thanks, I'll test it out this week.
> 
> > But today I tried
> > using a netboot image from Debian Live, and it was pretty nice.  I'm
> > wondering how it compares to an LTSP fat client.
> > 
> > The Debian Live solution works like this:
> > 
> > Download or build your own live image (the same kind of live image that
> > can be used on a USB or CD).  Share the image, read-only, over NFS.  Set
> > up tftpboot and dhcp.  Then your clients will download the live image
> > over the network and use local resources to run it.
> 
> i *think* debian-live loads the whole OS into ram, whereas LTSP's fatclient
> approach only loads parts over the network it actually uses when it uses it.
> both approaches have advantages and disadvantages, namely in how much server
> vs. local resources it takes.
> 
I'll do some tests on ram usage and report back.

> 
> > By default you are automatically logged in as the "live" user, 
> 
> this is more like an LTSP kiosk setup.
> 
> 
> > but you
> > can set it up to boot to a login manager.  I'm going to try mounting
> > /home over NFS and do user authentication via LDAP (I'll report back
> > when I have something to report).
> 
> with LTSP fat clients it essentially uses ssh to authenticate. scotty's been
> working on beautiful mastermind schemes to make that elegantly.
> 
> 
> there's a lot of similarity between debian-live and Debian LTSP, and hopefully
> we'll use more and more common tools.
> 

-Rob

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