On Wed, 2002-09-18 at 09:36, Jon Reynolds wrote: > On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 22:07, Warren Togami wrote: > Here's a list of > > several: > > > > Red Hat up2date > > Mandrake rpmdrake or urpmi > > SuSE YAST2 > > Debian apt-get > > Conectiva apt-rpm > > Gentoo emerge > > > Would you also recommend using the ximian red-carpet to help install > updates as well? > > Jon >
At first when I heard of Red Carpet, up2date, urpmi, and apt-rpm didn't exist. There were no automatic RPM dependency tools, so I was excited about Mono. Unfortunately initial Red Carpets were very unreliable. Now things are considerably improved, but those other tools have surpassed Red Carpet in functionality. I also don't feel Ximian Gnome has any real value over the Gnome distributions in the latest Linux distributions. Ximian has always been in bitter disagreements with Red Hat, and as a result their packages are very incompatible. Ximian Gnome makes for a nightmare in Red Hat's update cycle. Might as well wipe out and re-install if you want to upgrade to a new version of Red Hat. IMHO, Ximian's Gnome distribution always seemed to be a few steps behind Red Hat and Mandrake during the Gnome 1.x days. I remember installing Ximian, only to find that I lost several features like GAIM server side buddy lists because the Ximian packages were older than Red Hat and Mandrake's of the time. I'd really like for someone to prove me wrong, but I personally feel that Ximian Gnome has no real benefits. Don't get me wrong, while I don't like their product, I do applaud their continued work on Gnome and Mono, the fully Open Source implementation of Microsoft's .NET platform. http://www.go-mono.com/ Check out the Mono project site... tons of stuff like C# compiler, VM, JIT, ADO.NET, ASP.NET, Windows.Forms, GTK#, and core libraries. Mono is quickly approaching what will one day be a production .NET platform for any operating system. Mono currently runs on Windows and Linux, and will one day run on MacOS X and IIRC the BSD operating systems. While it is true that .NET exists for BSD in the form of Rotor, it is only available under Microsoft's "Shared Source" license which is purely for academic use only, no commercial use. This means that Mono is the only chance for non-Windows systems to have a fully functional .NET platform that can be used for commercial purposes.