Further testing from a Windoze box using pathping shows some interesting
results: (This should be prefaced by saying that I am on a RR connection but
nonetheless the results are interesting, especially when you consider the
number of hops and location of the Hawaiiantel servers.)
MD
pathping ns1.lava.net
Tracing route to ns1.lava.net [64.65.64.17]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
0 broadcast [192.168.0.90]
1 192.168.0.1
2 10.102.96.1
3 gig2-1.oahuhikane-rtr1.hawaii.rr.com [24.25.224.117]
4 srp5-0.oahuhikili-gsr2.hawaii.rr.com [24.25.224.70]
5 srp5-0.oahuhimili-gsr1.hawaii.rr.com [24.25.224.65]
6 pop1-hon-P2-0.atdn.net [66.185.137.57]
7 bb2-hon-P0-0.atdn.net [66.185.137.50]
8 pop2-hon-P0-1.atdn.net [66.185.137.67]
9 pihana.atdn.net [66.185.137.78]
10 202.177.194.193
11 202.177.194.10
12 malasada.lava.net [64.65.64.17]
Computing statistics for 300 seconds...
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 broadcast [192.168.0.90]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 0ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 192.168.0.1
0/ 100 = 0% |
2 6ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 10.102.96.1
0/ 100 = 0% |
3 7ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0%
gig2-1.oahuhikane-rtr1.hawaii.rr.c
om [24.25.224.117]
0/ 100 = 0% |
4 7ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0%
srp5-0.oahuhikili-gsr2.hawaii.rr.c
om [24.25.224.70]
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 8ms 1/ 100 = 1% 1/ 100 = 1%
srp5-0.oahuhimili-gsr1.hawaii.rr.c
om [24.25.224.65]
0/ 100 = 0% |
6 9ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% pop1-hon-P2-0.atdn.net
[66.185.137
.57]
0/ 100 = 0% |
7 9ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% bb2-hon-P0-0.atdn.net
[66.185.137.
50]
0/ 100 = 0% |
8 9ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% pop2-hon-P0-1.atdn.net
[66.185.137
.67]
0/ 100 = 0% |
9 10ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% pihana.atdn.net
[66.185.137.78]
0/ 100 = 0% |
10 9ms 1/ 100 = 1% 1/ 100 = 1% 202.177.194.193
0/ 100 = 0% |
11 9ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 202.177.194.10
0/ 100 = 0% |
12 11ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% malasada.lava.net
[64.65.64.17]
Trace complete.
pathping dns-pri-01.orange.rr.com
Tracing route to dns-pri-01.orange.rr.com [66.75.160.39]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
0 broadcast [192.168.0.90]
1 192.168.0.1
2 10.102.96.1
3 gig2-1.oahuhikane-rtr1.hawaii.rr.com [24.25.224.117]
4 srp5-0.oahuhikili-gsr2.hawaii.rr.com [24.25.224.70]
5 srp3-0.oahuhikili-gsr1.hawaii.rr.com [24.25.225.81]
6 so-0-1-3.lsanca1-rtr1.hawaii.rr.com [24.25.225.230]
7 POS1-0.ORNGCA4-GSR2.socal.rr.com [66.75.161.25]
8 GIG2-1.ORNGCA4-SWT2.socal.rr.com [66.75.161.5]
9 dns-pri-01.orange.rr.com [66.75.160.39]
Computing statistics for 225 seconds...
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 broadcast [192.168.0.90]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 0ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 192.168.0.1
0/ 100 = 0% |
2 7ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 10.102.96.1
0/ 100 = 0% |
3 7ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% gig2-1.oahuhikane-rtr1.ha
om [24.25.224.117]
0/ 100 = 0% |
4 8ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% srp5-0.oahuhikili-gsr2.ha
om [24.25.224.70]
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 7ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% srp3-0.oahuhikili-gsr1.ha
om [24.25.225.81]
0/ 100 = 0% |
6 81ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% so-0-1-3.lsanca1-rtr1.haw
m [24.25.225.230]
0/ 100 = 0% |
7 84ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% POS1-0.ORNGCA4-GSR2.socal
66.75.161.25]
0/ 100 = 0% |
8 84ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% GIG2-1.ORNGCA4-SWT2.socal
66.75.161.5]
0/ 100 = 0% |
9 85ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% dns-pri-01.orange.rr.com
0.39]
Trace complete.
pathping hnlldnsdhcp.hawaiiantel.net
Tracing route to hnlldnsdhcp.hawaiiantel.net [72.235.80.4]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
0 broadcast [192.168.0.90]
1 192.168.0.1
2 10.102.96.1
3 gig2-1.oahuhikane-rtr1.hawaii.rr.com [24.25.224.117]
4 srp5-0.oahuhikili-gsr2.hawaii.rr.com [24.25.224.70]
5 so-0-1-1.tustca1-rtr1.hawaii.rr.com [24.25.224.254]
6 so-0-1-0-0.gar1.Tustin1.Level3.net [65.58.240.9]
7 so-7-0-0.mp1.Tustin1.Level3.net [4.68.125.153]
8 ae-0-0.bbr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [64.159.1.126]
9 ge-0-0-0-55.gar1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.68.102.144]
10 sprint-level3-oc192.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [64.152.193.74]
11 sl-bb21-ana-4-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.8.95]
12 sl-bb22-ana-15-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.1.174]
13 sl-bb20-prl-10-1.sprintlink.net [144.232.8.157]
14 sl-gw2-prl-1-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.30.26]
15 * * *
Computing statistics for 375 seconds...
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 broadcast [192.168.0.90]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 0ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 192.168.0.1
0/ 100 = 0% |
2 7ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 10.102.96.1
0/ 100 = 0% |
3 7ms 1/ 100 = 1% 1/ 100 = 1%
gig2-1.oahuhikane-rtr1.hawaii.rr.c
om [24.25.224.117]
0/ 100 = 0% |
4 8ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0%
srp5-0.oahuhikili-gsr2.hawaii.rr.c
om [24.25.224.70]
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 71ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0%
so-0-1-1.tustca1-rtr1.hawaii.rr.co
m [24.25.224.254]
0/ 100 = 0% |
6 84ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0%
so-0-1-0-0.gar1.Tustin1.Level3.net
[65.58.240.9]
0/ 100 = 0% |
7 85ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0%
so-7-0-0.mp1.Tustin1.Level3.net [4
.68.125.153]
0/ 100 = 0% |
8 84ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0%
ae-0-0.bbr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net
[64.159.1.126]
0/ 100 = 0% |
9 83ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0%
ge-0-0-0-55.gar1.LosAngeles1.Level
3.net [4.68.102.144]
0/ 100 = 0% |
10 81ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0%
sprint-level3-oc192.LosAngeles1.Le
vel3.net [64.152.193.74]
0/ 100 = 0% |
11 82ms 1/ 100 = 1% 1/ 100 = 1% sl-bb21-ana-4-0.sprintlink.net
[14
4.232.8.95]
0/ 100 = 0% |
12 82ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0%
sl-bb22-ana-15-0.sprintlink.net [1
44.232.1.174]
0/ 100 = 0% |
13 137ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0%
sl-bb20-prl-10-1.sprintlink.net [1
44.232.8.157]
0/ 100 = 0% |
14 137ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% sl-gw2-prl-1-0.sprintlink.net
[144
.232.30.26]
100/ 100 =100% |
15 --- 100/ 100 =100% 0/ 100 = 0% broadcast [0.0.0.0]
Trace complete.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Al Plant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "LUAU" <luau@lists.hosef.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [LUAU] Slow internet response with different nameservers
Richard Z wrote:
rr.com has 4 dns server listed, dns4.rr.com, dns3.rr.com, dns2.rr.com
and dns1.rr.com. Unfortunately dns4 has very slow response time. In my
testing more than 3-4 seconds. Sometime even no response.
When there are multiple dns servers, it is up to the dns client to
decide how/where to send the queries. Some would send to the first
one, wait for response, if no response then send to the second one.
Other clients would send queries to all servers at the same time and
use the first response. Others use round robin to choose which one to
send query first. Without doing some research, I suspect linux always
uses the first dns server which has the lowest response time in this
case. Windows clients probably query all servers and get the response
from the fastest server.
On 6/3/06, David Imai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The RR servers are in Orange County CA and Oakland CA. The others
are local.
Even if this is the case, what is causing the slowness? Windows and Mac
systems don't seem to suffer from the problem. Is it a problem with the
way the nameservers are configured? or is it a problem with Linux or
Ubuntu? I think if people who try to use Linux with RR experience this
problem, they will probably blame Linux. HOSEF is planning to distribute
desktop machines to people. It wouldn't be good if everyone who used RR
ran into this problem. so what would be the best way to fix it before
the user runs into it?
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I just read where a misconfigured DNS server at an ISP can cause the
delay. Could this be the case here if it's only the rr connected folos are
affected?
I tried a test using a FreeBSD box:
if you run:
dig soa rr.com | more
you see a total dns response time of 154 ms from our noc.
dig soa lava.net | more
you see a total dns response time of 34 ms from our noc.
If this is any indication the rr slowness of response looks like there end
and not from your OS on the local box.
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