On 2013-06-10 09:44, Tracer wrote: >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Ali Linx (amjjawad) > >> I have failed to produce that issue no matter how many times I have tired. >> >> I even tried below 256MB of RAM but that did not crash the installation at >> all. YES, the installation process was SO SLOW but never crashed, in all my >> tests. > > > 1) That means you know something which we do not. > And/ or > 2) Your test machines are not representive/ including entire sample set. > > Of course, (2) is impossible for one person or even one team to tackle. > **But if all of us add our parameters & outcomes to a Database, it could > help the devs to pinpoint the causes of problems instead of guessing > or even doubting the existence of installation-problems. > > All features of a great software are in vain if it is not installed. > Whether because it is un-installable or because the user is incompetent, > the outcome is the same. > > " Even a high RAM machine cannot install Lubuntu with slideshow if > the processor is AMDK6/ does not support SSE2 " > **There must be MANY such observations, as of now unverified/ undocumented, > which could be gathered & addressed or maybe documented onscreen so that > a newbie installing Lubuntu does not give up in frustration. > > One thing I have wished for is an INDICATION that installation is > proceeding normally. After half an hour or more of no feedback except > maybe a blinking cursor, a user tends to get curious, depressed, or > impatient. If it uses too much resources to give a reassuring feedback, > then atleast there could be a page or message giving estimates of > time required based on processor/ RAM/ etc. > > Actually, I found it difficult to hit SEND on this message because > there is danger of sounding whiney & ungrateful ( and repetitive ) > But believe me, I am grateful. But for Lubuntu, I would be spending > wastefully on new hardware and Windows or getting very drowsy trying > bloated Linuxes on this hardware. So thanks to all responsible ! > BR > Tracey >
I think the difference is *already installed swap* and it is probably not told to the newbies clearly enough, how important it is when the RAM is low. If you start with a computer without linux, there will be no swap, and if the RAM is below 1 GB (or maybe below 768MB), you should start editing the partitions with for example gparted, and at least create swap. I think it is too late at the partitioning page of the installer (if the you reach that page at all). There are also other work-arounds, as has been indicated in this mail tread as well as other recent treads: zRAM, switching off the slide-show, using the alternate installer ... So I encourage you and everybody else to use this opportunity to make it clear, that we need improvements either of Plan A: the most used installer, or Plan B: much better documentation, and to encourage whoever has the capability and time to help doing it. Best regards Nio -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users