On 1 June 2016 at 16:13, Aere Greenway <a...@dvorak-keyboards.com> wrote:
> On 06/01/2016 05:57 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:

> Though I wish there were a Lubuntu version that would boot from CD, from
> what I have seen over the years, if a big effort were made to make this
> possible, it would most likely be only a temporary victory.
>
> As time goes on, new functionality goes into the kernel, and support for
> older machines is kept (again, we don't want to abandon those machines), so
> the kernel keeps getting bigger.  I would not want the kernel developers to
> remove support for older hardware, so removing older stuff to make room for
> the new is not (to me) a good idea.

It /does/ keep getting bigger, but it is a very long way from being 650MB yet!

Note that the current Minimal install CD image for 16.04 is roughly 50MB:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD#A32-bit_PC_.28i386.2C_x86.29

So there is *lots* of room for a minimal CD with little more than
X.org, LXDE and a web browser.

Bodhi and WattOS are about 550MB in the current versions.

And old hardware support /does/ get removed. The transition from
XFree86 to X.org removed support for a lot of old graphics cards, for
instance, and mainly leaves only PCI/PCI-E cards: all the old ISA and
VL-Bus cards are gone, and from my own experience, finding working
drivers for old AGP hardware today is very difficult.

> By the way, you can get USB 2.0 PCI cards (for a desktop), providing faster
> USB, and they are (were?) inexpensive.  Of course, that doesn't help for a
> laptop.

There are Cardbus USB 2 adaptors and they work. I have given it away
now, but I used to have a 2001 Acer-manufactured IBM 1200 Series
Thinkpad which had only USB and used such cards with it.

But you do need Cardbus (the PCMCIA equivalent of  PCI). It is not
possible with original PCMCIA.


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