The way I would look at it would be. If I'm going to go cheap, how can
I get the best for the money?

A portable computer not much bigger than five DVDs stacked up together
for $700 that will save you so much time, looks cool, is cool and runs
the fabled Mac OS X is the best that cheap can buy.

So how cheap are you? :-)

-- G.

On 7/7/06, Hari Kurup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The verdict according to moi:-

Usability factor: Yes. very user friendly.

Financial factor: No. Very pocket unfriendly.

PS: i use an iMac but only because the company bought it :-)

--
Hari Kurup


On Jul 7, 2006, at 9:28 AM, Paul Bagyenda wrote:

> At last, a well-considered opinion!
>
> Seriously, who has the time to tweak around with their computer?
> Sure when one was younger (15-18 may be) and still found such
> things interesting. But now? No way. Far more interesting things to
> be doing with the PC than to be tweaking settings.
>
>  I think Linux is "getting there" but the reasons "switching back
> to Ubuntu" are dubious at best.
>
> When Linux gives me:
>
> - An Office Suite to match MS Office for Mac (no,  Open Office is
> not quite there yet)
> - A desktop/command line integration that is as well-thoughout as
> that of OSX
> - Google in the box (http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/spotlight/)
> - The minimalism-with-power that I get with Safari & Apple Mail (to
> name but a few)
> - Virtualisation in the box (rumoured in next release to replace
> BootCamp, but already possible) so I don't need to dual boot.
>
> Then I might switch back. Linux server? Yes please. Linux desktop?
> Not yet.
>
> P.
>
> On Jul 06, 2006, at 13:18, Guido Sohne wrote:
>
>> Strange. I spent years switching back and forth between Linux and
>> Windows. I'd go to Linux because it was easy to develop on, software
>> is always being updated, so no waiting for the "next version, coming
>> real soon now". Would have fun and tweak my system to my heart's
>> content, wasting mucho time in the process.
>>
>> Then next there was always a nagging feeling. Somehow there weren't
>> enough apps. I mean things you could just use without hassling over
>> the details like font hinting in freetype and their bloody patented
>> algorithm. Or downloading Bitstream Vera so that I could get a good
>> quality font experience. Am not typical at all. I never use word
>> processors, spreadsheets and the like. Rarely, maybe a letter, or a
>> presentation. Rarely. Very rarely.
>>
>> A good web browser is now standard. Ditto email. Ditto chat. Many
>> choices. Most more than capable. So what do you really get on Linux
>> then? You have full control. And applications that feel like they are
>> not yet quite done, but are a work forever in progress. Wine comes to
>> mind immediately.
>>
>> After a while of this, I would reformat and install Windows and get
>> all the little, tiny plenty applications that I could have. It's fine
>> for a day or so. Then it just starts getting slow. Annoying things
>> always want to popup. The computer always wants to "help" me. You
>> never feel right because you wonder if you have been hacked, even
>> with
>> all your layers of voodoo defense. You realize that the applications
>> have all these little annoyance. Everytime you want to save or open a
>> file you have to go through some really shitty dialog box that
>> doesn't
>> really do anything but get in your way and offer too many ways to do
>> things, that you have to waste time even deciding. Or stupid little
>> repetitive actions such as keep on clicking until you get to where
>> you
>> want to. It makes no sense, because it is Frankenstein, stitched
>> together by an army of drones deep inside the Borg colony.
>> Eventually,
>> I get disgusted and reformat to move to a nice clean fast stable
>> Linux.
>>
>> Switching to OS X ended all of these problems for me. I have the
>> decent, polished (better than Windows applications overall)
>> applications and end user experience. Things just work. No endless
>> tweaking. With a full Unix underneath, a few quirks here and there,
>> but not command.com, we have bash, we have unix userland, we have a
>> ports collection similar to BSD. There's X if you want it, but no one
>> really likes it compared to the native apps.
>>
>> More people will switch as Linux gets better, but for now, OS X is
>> very far ahead in terms of the user experience. Now, if only we could
>> have OS X running on top of the Linux kernel, all would be perfect.
>> The Solaris kernel and userland, that could be even better, maybe
>> more
>> interesting since Solaris has waaaaay more features than Linux.
>>
>> But last is what's the need and point of switching when you can
>> wait a
>> few months, or even buy the right hardware now and run all these
>> systems under a hypervisor? Virtualization is here. Why switch any
>> longer? You can have it all ...
>>
>> So the way I understand it is they are just making a statement, going
>> on an adventure and they will be gone for a long while. If OS X gets
>> enough better, they will surely switch back. If Linux gets enough
>> better, I'll probably switch again ...
>>
>> -- G.
>>
>> On 7/4/06, Paul Bagyenda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2006/06/
>>> ubuntu_linux_a_threat_to_mac_o.html
>>>
>>> "If I were Apple, I'd be worried about this. Two lifelong Mac
>>> fans are
>>> switching away from Macs to PCs running Ubuntu Linux"
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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