> > A portable computer not much bigger than five DVDs stacked up together > > for $700 that will save you so much time, looks cool, is cool and runs
You must be talking about the mac-mini core duo rite? Cool - yeah Cheap -- no way Cheap will be this one right here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4243733.stm -- Henry -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guido Sohne Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 1:10 PM To: Linux Users Group Uganda Subject: Re: [LUG] Switching back to Ubuntu... The way I would look at it would be. If I'm going to go cheap, how can I get the best for the money? A portable computer not much bigger than five DVDs stacked up together for $700 that will save you so much time, looks cool, is cool and runs the fabled Mac OS X is the best that cheap can buy. So how cheap are you? :-) -- G. On 7/7/06, Hari Kurup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The verdict according to moi:- > > Usability factor: Yes. very user friendly. > > Financial factor: No. Very pocket unfriendly. > > PS: i use an iMac but only because the company bought it :-) > > -- > Hari Kurup > > > On Jul 7, 2006, at 9:28 AM, Paul Bagyenda wrote: > > > At last, a well-considered opinion! > > > > Seriously, who has the time to tweak around with their computer? > > Sure when one was younger (15-18 may be) and still found such > > things interesting. But now? No way. Far more interesting things to > > be doing with the PC than to be tweaking settings. > > > > I think Linux is "getting there" but the reasons "switching back > > to Ubuntu" are dubious at best. > > > > When Linux gives me: > > > > - An Office Suite to match MS Office for Mac (no, Open Office is > > not quite there yet) > > - A desktop/command line integration that is as well-thoughout as > > that of OSX > > - Google in the box (http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/spotlight/) > > - The minimalism-with-power that I get with Safari & Apple Mail (to > > name but a few) > > - Virtualisation in the box (rumoured in next release to replace > > BootCamp, but already possible) so I don't need to dual boot. > > > > Then I might switch back. Linux server? Yes please. Linux desktop? > > Not yet. > > > > P. > > > > On Jul 06, 2006, at 13:18, Guido Sohne wrote: > > > >> Strange. I spent years switching back and forth between Linux and > >> Windows. I'd go to Linux because it was easy to develop on, software > >> is always being updated, so no waiting for the "next version, coming > >> real soon now". Would have fun and tweak my system to my heart's > >> content, wasting mucho time in the process. > >> > >> Then next there was always a nagging feeling. Somehow there weren't > >> enough apps. I mean things you could just use without hassling over > >> the details like font hinting in freetype and their bloody patented > >> algorithm. Or downloading Bitstream Vera so that I could get a good > >> quality font experience. Am not typical at all. I never use word > >> processors, spreadsheets and the like. Rarely, maybe a letter, or a > >> presentation. Rarely. Very rarely. > >> > >> A good web browser is now standard. Ditto email. Ditto chat. Many > >> choices. Most more than capable. So what do you really get on Linux > >> then? You have full control. And applications that feel like they are > >> not yet quite done, but are a work forever in progress. Wine comes to > >> mind immediately. > >> > >> After a while of this, I would reformat and install Windows and get > >> all the little, tiny plenty applications that I could have. It's fine > >> for a day or so. Then it just starts getting slow. Annoying things > >> always want to popup. The computer always wants to "help" me. You > >> never feel right because you wonder if you have been hacked, even > >> with > >> all your layers of voodoo defense. You realize that the applications > >> have all these little annoyance. Everytime you want to save or open a > >> file you have to go through some really shitty dialog box that > >> doesn't > >> really do anything but get in your way and offer too many ways to do > >> things, that you have to waste time even deciding. Or stupid little > >> repetitive actions such as keep on clicking until you get to where > >> you > >> want to. It makes no sense, because it is Frankenstein, stitched > >> together by an army of drones deep inside the Borg colony. > >> Eventually, > >> I get disgusted and reformat to move to a nice clean fast stable > >> Linux. > >> > >> Switching to OS X ended all of these problems for me. I have the > >> decent, polished (better than Windows applications overall) > >> applications and end user experience. Things just work. No endless > >> tweaking. With a full Unix underneath, a few quirks here and there, > >> but not command.com, we have bash, we have unix userland, we have a > >> ports collection similar to BSD. There's X if you want it, but no one > >> really likes it compared to the native apps. > >> > >> More people will switch as Linux gets better, but for now, OS X is > >> very far ahead in terms of the user experience. Now, if only we could > >> have OS X running on top of the Linux kernel, all would be perfect. > >> The Solaris kernel and userland, that could be even better, maybe > >> more > >> interesting since Solaris has waaaaay more features than Linux. > >> > >> But last is what's the need and point of switching when you can > >> wait a > >> few months, or even buy the right hardware now and run all these > >> systems under a hypervisor? Virtualization is here. Why switch any > >> longer? You can have it all ... > >> > >> So the way I understand it is they are just making a statement, going > >> on an adventure and they will be gone for a long while. If OS X gets > >> enough better, they will surely switch back. If Linux gets enough > >> better, I'll probably switch again ... > >> > >> -- G. > >> > >> On 7/4/06, Paul Bagyenda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2006/06/ > >>> ubuntu_linux_a_threat_to_mac_o.html > >>> > >>> "If I were Apple, I'd be worried about this. Two lifelong Mac > >>> fans are > >>> switching away from Macs to PCs running Ubuntu Linux" > >>> > >>> --- > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> So what do the Ubuntu users on this list have to say? > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> LUG mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > >>> %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >>> > >>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them > >>> (including > >>> attachments if any). 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