On Jul 7, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Joseph Abdi wrote:
I'd like an example of a domain name under .ug that the govt has
ordered
disabled.
I already answered this ...but also you mentioned of how
radiokatwe.com was
routed by ALL ISPs on orders of government ...you think CFI would
disagree
with this order if it were radiokatwe.co.ug??
I saw your example and I actually do not see any reason why you think
UCC would have helped you in that case. Infact if anything it would
have been worse with UCC. At least with a private company I can sue
them in court and get a court order requiring them to put my domain
back online and they will not willfully ignore the court order unlike
a government organisation which can willfully ignore it as long as
they know they are covered. We all know of many cases of government
agencies willfully ignoring court orders.
In the case of your domains that were transferred, I must assume that
the government representative was the registered administrative
contact of the domains, which meant that they could ask for transfer
of their domain at any time. At the same time anyone managing the
ccTLD must keep the interests of the actual domain owners also
balanced. Nobody would like a situation where you want to change
providers or hosting company for example and they hold you hostage
because your domains are in their account.
Did you actually register a complaint? Was anything done about it? I
do not see any reason why you think this would have been any different
under UCC or another company.
This is because it made no sense hosting in Uganda without the UXIP.
But now with the introduction of UIXP, local hosting is growing
up ..We have some
companies offering good and reliable local hosting here in Uganda
but ALL because of
UIXP. We too Jolis are working on a UG DC so soon we will be
offering local hosting..
Ok this is hilarious! There has been an IX in Uganda for over 7 years
now so talking about "now with the introduction of UIXP" is simply too
amusing :-)
and you want to compare the US governance to that of Uganda?
Yes, there is a great and close comparison when it comes to ccTLDs
governance in all
countries ..infact UCC would still have to listen to ICANN..
And apart from Kenya and some authoritarian regimes like China, the
ccTLDs in free democratic countries are most definitely NOT managed by
the governments of the countries in question. I have been
participating in ICANN since 2001 and I am very amused by the kind of
authority you seem to think ICANN has. As I suggested before, take
some time and actually attend some ICANN meetings. I can almost
guarantee that you will leave those meetings with a profoundly
different view of how much actual authority ICANN wields.
They may have failed in there management, but that doesn't mean we
can't improve
in there failures ...ALSO they are atleast better than us ..they
have more competition
and have registered more .ke(s) than here ..(have better answered
this on I-Network)
They also happen to have an economy that is far larger than Uganda's.
So attributing the number of .ke domains to the management of the
ccTLD is a fallacy. Kenya has a GDP of $30.35 Billion while Uganda has
a GDP of $14.33 Billion. They more than double our GDP so obviously it
is no surprise that they have far more domains under the ccTLD than we
do.
Noah.
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