James,

With all due respect,

> Noah
> 
> The trend this issue has taken cannot be reversed. You just need to
> embrace Govt influence however minimal or much. The writing is on the
> wall and we have no choice as Ugandans to work out a Public Private
> Partnership with Govt on this issue. 

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

> Isnt the UIXP operating very well
> with UCC's assistance? Why dont you want them to participate in this
> process too?

Please don't drag the UIXP into this.

> 
> Wire
> 

Regards,
Kyle

> 
> On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 16:02 +0300, Noah Sematimba wrote:
> 
> > On Jul 6, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Wire James wrote:
> > 
> > > McTim
> > > 
> > > Thanks for quoting the RFC. However, just a quick reminder, while in
> > >     school, we were taught about evolution. What may not have been   
> > > anticipated at the start of this whole internet thing is probably   
> > > taking center stage. While the RFC may have been ideal for the   
> > > circumstances 15 years ago, alot of water has passed under the   
> > > bridge and the importance that these TLDs carry today can no longer   
> > > be under-estimated. While the principle of the RFC still applies   
> > > today, it should also be revised to integrate not only individuals   
> > > managing but also organisations. I dont see what is hard there   
> > > especially if it is the very internet community asking for this   
> > > change. If democracy be the virtue of what we do, then we can always
> > >     agree to modify what one man or a few select people envisaged   
> > > decades ago shouldnt be a problem at all.
> > 
> > There is a very clear and open process for getting RFCs updated.   
> > Infact you can author a new draft, submit it to the IETF and get the   
> > relevant WGs to discuss it and possibly adopt it if there is   
> > consensus.   ranting on this and other mailing lists will not change   
> > the RFC.
> > 
> > > 
> > > My proposal is that lets engage UCC as civil society or private   
> > > sector and see to it that we achieve a middle ground on the issues   
> > > where our fears are manifesting.
> > 
> > I find your trust in UCC very amusing. While many of the people in UCC
> >     are very nice as individuals and are even friends to many of us, we   
> > must not forget that they are employed by UCC which is a government   
> > body that MUST obey the instructions and orders of its political   
> > masters. So when you propose to allow the regulator a lot of control   
> > over an internet resource like the ccTLD, you are in effect allowing   
> > the politicians to them they report to control the resource.   
> > Personally the idea of allowing an politicians control over something   
> > like this is scary.
> > 
> > We've seen what happens to free speech and open access to internet   
> > resources when the government of the day is given too much control   
> > over the internet. CHina and Iran are quite a clear example. I really   
> > do not see what would stop some zealous political apparatchik in the   
> > house at Nakasero from giving instructions to disable fdc.orug or   
> > jeema.or.ug during presidential campaigns... and no amount of   
> > apologies afterwards and dummy commissions would make any difference   
> > anyway! For those who would want to claim that those people would then
> >     simply go and register another domain in the com, net or org TLDs,
> > you     must consider that if a site becomes sufficiently popular,
> > getting the     information out to all the people who were previously
> > using it is not     a simple task.
> > 
> > As for fears manifesting, I haven't yet seen any of these fears that   
> > are being talked about manifesting. All I see is a lot of speculation   
> > on what ifs..
> > 
> > Noah.

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