Hi Brian,

I have seen a demo of Userful; actually I know someone in Jinja who is
their in-country agent for Uganda but I would hesitate to recommend it
for an institution that wants to be called open-source leaning. In the
long run, the cost of Userful is not also very exciting unless you have
the kind of funds that must be spent at all cost. 

I have looked at this
http://www.linuxtoys.org/multiubuntu/multiubuntu.html and I thought it
was quite good. I am not sure if your University has room for R&D but I
would suggest to try that out first. I know there will be some
challenges like you may want to run it on the latest Ubuntu or you may
only have 2004 Dell Optiplexes from CTG, etc, but I personally find a
lot of benefit from looking for local solutions to things like this
first ( no I am not mean, but I think there is value in stretching our
resources a little bit).

The Pixie project that Marten suggests is another very good suggestion
again if you have the courage to get your hands dirty. Yes, I know a
ready made solution saves you a lot of headache.... but if we stick to
those when shall we ever get to do something ourselves!!?

Too bad your students are not studying to be IT techies, otherwise you
would do it as a class project. Otherwise why don't you call up some
daring enthusiasts and we do a test project one weekend over tea and
snacks?? Maybe we could just prove that it can or can't be done, after
all, and have fun while we do so!! Weekends get too boring sometimes!!!


Chris 

On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 16:45 +0300, Brian Ssennoga wrote:
> Jake,
> 
> You might want to consider me a large customer. Brian
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Jake Markhus <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>         Well, If it is cost of hardware, I will have to agree with
>         you. I would like also recommend the netbooks
>         and such cheaper alternatives. Would the aluetia units come
>         preinstalled with Linux and the normal
>         productivity apps?
>         I am about to pitch an opensource solution to a large customer
>         and perhaps aluetia is the answer.
>         
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>         On Behalf Of Simon Vass
>         Sent: 31 October 2011 16:33
>         To: Uganda Linux User Group
>         
>         
>         Subject: Re: [LUG] Linux This Client Software
>         
>         As yourself why you need to purchase EVEN ONE license for
>         multiseat Linux. Is that really opensource?
>         
>         Yes! ask Redhat. That is their business model and as far as I
>         know no-one is accusing them of not being Open Source. Just
>         because you have to pay money does not make something FOSS.
>         
>         That being said, I agree where possible if you can find an
>         entirely FOSS alternative you should. I think Brian's main
>         issue though is looking for a cheaper hardware/software
>         solution, since he can no longer buy cheaper second hand PC's
>         and turn them into thin-clients, and custom thin-clients work
>         out more expensive than fat-clients in Uganda or have caveats
>         such as the ncomputing solution.
>         
>         Brian, what about the idea of importing a batch of atom based
>         units such as Aluetia?
>          Then you have a multitude of choices for thin-clients.
>         Openthinclient might be worth a look, I have given it a go,
>         looks ok.
>         
>         
>         Simon Vass
>         Managing Director
>         E-Tech Uganda Ltd
>         
>         http://www.etech.ug
>         Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 or (0) 312260621
>         email: [email protected]
>         skype: e-techservicedesk
>         
>         
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         From: "Jake Markhus" <[email protected]>
>         To: "Uganda Linux User Group" <[email protected]>
>         Sent: Monday, 31 October, 2011 4:05:35 PM
>         Subject: Re: [LUG] Linux This Client Software
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         Hey,
>         
>         
>         
>         Allow me as a long time Microsoft developer/user as well as an
>         early Linux adopter 1999 to comment on the link posted.
>         
>         The product comparison should have said only one thing. That
>         Multiseat Linux was/is cheaper than Multipoint Server 2011.
>         I have access to Multipoint server fully licensed from
>         Microsoft free for purposes of testing, demonstrating and
>         feasibility studies. The only issue I found was getting the
>         right hardware. Now, if one got hold of the right hardware for
>         MS and had the right drivers for Linux, a lot of the alleged
>         shortcomings of MS would be nullified.
>         
>         We as opensource advocates should look to the real issues. As
>         yourself why you need to purchase EVEN ONE license for
>         multiseat Linux. Is that really opensource? If we paid the
>         company to come support and do the installation then that
>         would make sense.
>         
>         Do not be deceived by marketing hype. The core issue is the
>         price of the licenses and your end users. Ruth be told if you
>         have enlightened users who know more about word-processing and
>         spread sheets than they do about word and excel, then to cut
>         down deployment costs you should go for multiseat Linux since
>         after you get the OS and pay for the license then from that
>         point onwards everything else is free (as in beer not as in
>         speech). I think however, if you wanted to lower costs, just
>         buy a number of cpus with no hard-drives, a custom usb or
>         cdrom Linux distro that connects to your lan and presto!! 20
>         cdroms with Linux that when booted give you your environment.
>         This is what I used when studying intrusion detection systems
>         with silensec and I found it brilliant cause all you had to do
>         was give students a cdrom and remind them to backup to flash
>         before shutting down. Also the silensec guys had written
>         scripts to configure the network and give us access to the
>         server we alternatively attacked or defended against.
>         
>         Try that route first before forking out any money. Jeff Atwood
>         the man behind Ubuntu.stackexchange.com once said, “never
>         buy/invent what you can steal/get for free”. It is always my
>         guide whenever I get a new project. To first see what else has
>         been done by others bother free and paid
>         
>         
>         
>         Jake
>         
>         
>         
>         From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>         On Behalf Of Brian Ssennoga
>         Sent: 31 October 2011 15:36
>         To: Uganda Linux User Group
>         Cc: FBT; [email protected]
>         Subject: [LUG] Linux This Client Software
>         
>         
>         
>         Hello FOSS People,
>         
>         In our (IHSU's) continued quest for a thin-client solution, we
>         have landed on this -
>         
> http://www2.userful.com/products/product-comparison/userful-multiseat-vs-windows-multipoint
>  -
>         
>         I wonder, has anyone come across this before? Any prior
>         experience we might want to learn from?
>         
>         We will surely go onto the free trials, as we await sales
>         information, so we know how expensive/cheap it is.
>         
>         --
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