With DRBL you can have a PIXIE set-up up & running within 30min. Rocco On 01/11/2011 12:33 PM, Chris R. Kasangaki wrote: > Hi Brian, > > I have seen a demo of Userful; actually I know someone in Jinja who is > their in-country agent for Uganda but I would hesitate to recommend it > for an institution that wants to be called open-source leaning. In the > long run, the cost of Userful is not also very exciting unless you have > the kind of funds that must be spent at all cost. > > I have looked at this > http://www.linuxtoys.org/multiubuntu/multiubuntu.html and I thought it > was quite good. I am not sure if your University has room for R&D but I > would suggest to try that out first. I know there will be some > challenges like you may want to run it on the latest Ubuntu or you may > only have 2004 Dell Optiplexes from CTG, etc, but I personally find a > lot of benefit from looking for local solutions to things like this > first ( no I am not mean, but I think there is value in stretching our > resources a little bit). > > The Pixie project that Marten suggests is another very good suggestion > again if you have the courage to get your hands dirty. Yes, I know a > ready made solution saves you a lot of headache.... but if we stick to > those when shall we ever get to do something ourselves!!? > > Too bad your students are not studying to be IT techies, otherwise you > would do it as a class project. Otherwise why don't you call up some > daring enthusiasts and we do a test project one weekend over tea and > snacks?? Maybe we could just prove that it can or can't be done, after > all, and have fun while we do so!! Weekends get too boring sometimes!!! > > > Chris > > On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 16:45 +0300, Brian Ssennoga wrote: >> Jake, >> >> You might want to consider me a large customer. Brian >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Jake Markhus <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Well, If it is cost of hardware, I will have to agree with >> you. I would like also recommend the netbooks >> and such cheaper alternatives. Would the aluetia units come >> preinstalled with Linux and the normal >> productivity apps? >> I am about to pitch an opensource solution to a large customer >> and perhaps aluetia is the answer. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Simon Vass >> Sent: 31 October 2011 16:33 >> To: Uganda Linux User Group >> >> >> Subject: Re: [LUG] Linux This Client Software >> >> As yourself why you need to purchase EVEN ONE license for >> multiseat Linux. Is that really opensource? >> >> Yes! ask Redhat. That is their business model and as far as I >> know no-one is accusing them of not being Open Source. Just >> because you have to pay money does not make something FOSS. >> >> That being said, I agree where possible if you can find an >> entirely FOSS alternative you should. I think Brian's main >> issue though is looking for a cheaper hardware/software >> solution, since he can no longer buy cheaper second hand PC's >> and turn them into thin-clients, and custom thin-clients work >> out more expensive than fat-clients in Uganda or have caveats >> such as the ncomputing solution. >> >> Brian, what about the idea of importing a batch of atom based >> units such as Aluetia? >> Then you have a multitude of choices for thin-clients. >> Openthinclient might be worth a look, I have given it a go, >> looks ok. >> >> >> Simon Vass >> Managing Director >> E-Tech Uganda Ltd >> >> http://www.etech.ug >> Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 or (0) 312260621 >> email: [email protected] >> skype: e-techservicedesk >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jake Markhus" <[email protected]> >> To: "Uganda Linux User Group" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, 31 October, 2011 4:05:35 PM >> Subject: Re: [LUG] Linux This Client Software >> >> >> >> >> >> Hey, >> >> >> >> Allow me as a long time Microsoft developer/user as well as an >> early Linux adopter 1999 to comment on the link posted. >> >> The product comparison should have said only one thing. That >> Multiseat Linux was/is cheaper than Multipoint Server 2011. >> I have access to Multipoint server fully licensed from >> Microsoft free for purposes of testing, demonstrating and >> feasibility studies. The only issue I found was getting the >> right hardware. Now, if one got hold of the right hardware for >> MS and had the right drivers for Linux, a lot of the alleged >> shortcomings of MS would be nullified. >> >> We as opensource advocates should look to the real issues. As >> yourself why you need to purchase EVEN ONE license for >> multiseat Linux. Is that really opensource? If we paid the >> company to come support and do the installation then that >> would make sense. >> >> Do not be deceived by marketing hype. The core issue is the >> price of the licenses and your end users. Ruth be told if you >> have enlightened users who know more about word-processing and >> spread sheets than they do about word and excel, then to cut >> down deployment costs you should go for multiseat Linux since >> after you get the OS and pay for the license then from that >> point onwards everything else is free (as in beer not as in >> speech). I think however, if you wanted to lower costs, just >> buy a number of cpus with no hard-drives, a custom usb or >> cdrom Linux distro that connects to your lan and presto!! 20 >> cdroms with Linux that when booted give you your environment. >> This is what I used when studying intrusion detection systems >> with silensec and I found it brilliant cause all you had to do >> was give students a cdrom and remind them to backup to flash >> before shutting down. Also the silensec guys had written >> scripts to configure the network and give us access to the >> server we alternatively attacked or defended against. >> >> Try that route first before forking out any money. Jeff Atwood >> the man behind Ubuntu.stackexchange.com once said, “never >> buy/invent what you can steal/get for free”. It is always my >> guide whenever I get a new project. To first see what else has >> been done by others bother free and paid >> >> >> >> Jake >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Brian Ssennoga >> Sent: 31 October 2011 15:36 >> To: Uganda Linux User Group >> Cc: FBT; [email protected] >> Subject: [LUG] Linux This Client Software >> >> >> >> Hello FOSS People, >> >> In our (IHSU's) continued quest for a thin-client solution, we >> have landed on this - >> >> http://www2.userful.com/products/product-comparison/userful-multiseat-vs-windows-multipoint >> - >> >> I wonder, has anyone come across this before? Any prior >> experience we might want to learn from? >> >> We will surely go onto the free trials, as we await sales >> information, so we know how expensive/cheap it is. >> >> -- >> Love indeed conquers all..... >> Brian A. Ssennoga >> _______________________________________________ >> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> >> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >> [email protected] Mailing list archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> >> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them >> (including attachments if any). 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The mailing list host is not >> responsible for them in any way. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> >> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >> [email protected] >> Mailing list archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> >> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them >> (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not >> responsible for them in any way. >> >> >> >> -- >> Love indeed conquers all..... >> Brian A. 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