Gentlemen and Ladies, Somewhere I read about a pilot network to be established in the Bukoto Street (Kamwokya / Kololo) or so area where many ICT companies are camped. Where did it end? We could begin sourcing equipment and ISOs. Any interested ISPs would then find us somewhere.
As any salary earner, I would gladly contribute to both equipment and ISO contributions... at the end of the month. That is my humble thinking. # Edmonds. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Simon Vass <[email protected]> wrote: > (I agree that it would be better with unlimited connections altogether. > But I'm not certain ISPs are ready for that yet, and in that case this idea > is an agreeable compromise until we can indeed achieve "real" neutrality.) > > We had 'real' net neutrality. It's the telco's who convinced us otherwise, > with data caps. Ask your ISP if they buy there bandwidth according to how > much they consume! So why should we? Doesn't SEACOM and TEAMS have > infrastructure to maintain? > > Personally if we go down this road we'll move further away from 'real' net > neutrality until we don't even know what it looks like any more, as with > the way most people think it's perfectly normal to have an internet > connection based on usage not speed. > > > > Simon Vass > Managing Director > E-Tech Uganda Ltd > > http://www.etech.ug > Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 or (0) 312260621 > email: [email protected] > skype: e-techservicedesk > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Benjamin Tayehanpour" <[email protected]> > To: "Uganda Linux User Group" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, 23 May, 2012 9:47:58 AM > Subject: Re: [LUG] New Mirror > > > Normally, yes. However, here you must take into account the people who at > present cannot afford an Internet connection, or, if they do, cannot afford > certain activities on the Internet due to it being insanely expensive to > download large files. > > In essence, you can choose between two non-neutralities: the one we have > now, or the one proposed. > > In the one we have now, only wealthier clients can afford to download > large amounts of data, and the not-so-wealthy have either to give up hope > of partaking in such content or to copy the file from a wealthier > acquaintance. > > In the one proposed, only wealthier clients can afford to download large > amounts of off-country data, and the not-so-wealthy will have access to > said data through in-country local-access-only servers, or, failing that, a > direct transfer between two people via the Internet, which will be free of > charge for both parties since the data never crosses the border. > > Which non-neutrality do you prefer, barring total neutrality which, > unfortunately, is far away? > > (I agree that it would be better with unlimited connections altogether. > But I'm not certain ISPs are ready for that yet, and in that case this idea > is an agreeable compromise until we can indeed achieve "real" neutrality.) > > > On 23 May 2012 09:20, Simon Vass < [email protected] > wrote: > > > Benjamin, > > Once an ISP is differentiating access to content by price your breaking > net neutrality. > > > > > > > Simon Vass > Managing Director > E-Tech Uganda Ltd > > http://www.etech.ug > Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 or (0) 312260621 > email: [email protected] > skype: e-techservicedesk > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Benjamin Tayehanpour < [email protected] > > > > To: Uganda Linux User Group < [email protected] > > Sent: Wed, 23 May 2012 08:56:14 +0300 (EAT) > Subject: Re: [LUG] New Mirror > > Internet is already "non-neutral" in many countries. The only way to make > it neutral would be to make Internet available to everyone free of charge. > This is already done in many larger cities (free hotspots &c.), including > Kampala I believe (I have at least seen unprotected hotspots -- whether by > design or by accident I'm not sure). > > It's doesn't affect neutrality to make local traffic cheaper than > international traffic. On the contrary, it helps spreading files and > information to people who otherwise couldn't foot the bill on downloading > it. > > On 21 May 2012 23:23, Kyle Spencer < [email protected] > wrote: > > > As to contacting Telkos, Its a great idea. Lots of potential for telkos > to > >> differentiate themselves. And the idea has been floated a few times. So > >> far the > >> only services that are provided at lesser costs to users are abroad > >> ( 0.facebook.com and m.wikipedia.org ) > >> > > > > > > To ask for this is to ask for a non-neutral Internet. Rather than asking > > the Telecoms to destroy the Internet as we know it, we should encourage > > ISPs to offer unlimited/un-capped services (throttling connection speeds > is > > OK). > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Reinier Battenberg < > > [email protected] > wrote: > > > >> > >> There used to be an ubuntu/debian cache at the UIXP. Its not a place to > >> keep > >> any ICT equipment so I moved our server to a real nice datacenter run by > >> Roke > >> Telkom in Bugulobi. Now that more appropriate organisations (like the > >> University UCU) take over the responsibility of hosting mirrored data, I > >> will > >> downgrade our services in this regard. (going to delete the hardy isos > :-) > >> > >> As to contacting Telkos, Its a great idea. Lots of potential for telkos > to > >> differentiate themselves. And the idea has been floated a few times. So > >> far the > >> only services that are provided at lesser costs to users are abroad > >> ( 0.facebook.com and m.wikipedia.org ) > >> > >> While there is (still) a local copy of schoolwiki running that is > totally > >> free > >> for ISPs to host or link to (And am totally open to run services like > this > >> under a different URL) > >> > >> http://schoolwiki.mountbatten.net/ > >> > >> rgds, > >> > >> Reinier > >> > >> > >> > >> On Monday 30 April 2012 08:29:05 Jake Markhus wrote: > >> > This mirror is FABULOUS!! I agree MUK should come on board! Can we > >> convince > >> > ISPs to provide hosted mirrors as well? > >> > Or can we have one mirror at the ixp? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected] ] On > >> Behalf Of > >> > Wilson > >> > Sent: 30 April 2012 08:24 > >> > To: Uganda Linux User Group > >> > Subject: Re: [LUG] New Mirror > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Great news!! Only wish MUK also could follow suit and publish its > >> mirror on > >> > the internet. > >> > > >> > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Hari Kurup < [email protected] > > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > Great news but can't help notice that you are missing the most popular > >> > linux distro on the planet - aka Linux Mint! (at least according to > >> > http://distrowatch.com ) > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Hari > >> > > >> > On Sun, April 29, 2012 11:01 pm, [email protected] wrote: > >> > > Hello Members, > >> > > > >> > > Just to let you know, our (UCU) local mirror is beginning to take > >> shape. > >> > > for access visit http://mirror.ucu.ac.ug . > >> > > Most of the distributions are done syncing with the exception of > >> > > FreeBSD, > >> > > Debian, OpenSUSE. > >> > > > >> > > Send any feedback to [email protected] > >> > > > >> > > thanks > >> > > Alex > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ----------------------------------------- > >> > > This email has been sent with the following Disclaimer. > >> > > http://www.ucu.ac.ug/disclaimer.txt . > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug > >> > > > >> > > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: > >> > > [email protected] > >> > > Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >> > > Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > >> > > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug > >> > > > >> > > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: > >> > > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >> > > > >> > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them > >> (including > >> > > attachments if any). 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