On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 06:22:01 +0000 "saw 192837" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> 
> Howdy boys
> 
> 
> New boy here. I finally got my 1979 (?) Larry K Brown 8 course Hans 
> Frei c34 
> replica lute. Strung with nylon, cherry "ribs" (? what the hell is 
> rib? 
> B-B-Q?) I assume the top is also cherry
> 
> The lute looks wonderful, and historically accurate. The action and 
> sound 
> seem very good as well. It feels like a feather compared to my 
> classical 
> guitar (which itself is light for guitars). The wood and 
> craftsmanship seem 
> first rate. It sounds much brighter than the guitar, more biting and 
> 
> quieter. The rose (based on the c33) looks beautiful. I looked into 
> the rose 
> with a light and saw a handwritten (in pen) "Larry Brown, 
> Washington, 8c 
> 1979" on a tiny piece of paper. I was expecting a guitar like label, 
> so that 
> was weird to see handwriting, but i guess that is a good sign its 
> handmade.

Thie is the "other" Larry Brown, not Larry K. of Asheville NC

> 
> It was hard to tune until I got a hand of the friction pegs--you 
> have to 
> push them in to keep them there. I managed to finally tune it.  (I 
> considered tuning all courses down 1/2 step except the 3rd course, 
> so I 
> could try guitar music on it--bad idea?).
> 

I agree with Howard -- guitar music on guitar, lute music on lute. 
Renaissance lute music, which is what you will mostly end up playing on
this instrument, is a different world, much less brash and forward, much
more intimate than 19th century and later guitar music.

> I like the string plucking though, the low tension is more 
> enjoyable. When I 
> switched back to the guitar it felt like the strings were made of 
> brick.
> 
> Now I would prefer to dwell on the "bad" things because negative 
> criticism 
> is always preferred:
> 
> The biggest thing is it seems impossible to hold. The thing has no 
> guitar-like lap thing and just slides around. Do you use a strap? 
> How do you 
> hold this thing?

Some brief videos illustrating how several professional players hold
their instruments and how the right hand can be used are found at:
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/download/index.html#video
 

> 
> Second, I have never played double-strung courses before. I still 
> have nails 
> for the guitar (and dont want to quit the guitar, nails make it 
> 1000x better 
> and easier to play). First of all, how do you pluck both strings of 
> a 
> course? I keep hitting only one, unless I use two fingers. Is this 
> because I 
> still have right-hand nails? The person who sold me the lute says he 
> plays 
> with nails. . . is this bad or not? Do I need to get rid of the 
> nails (That 
> is a hard thing to do once you get use to them)? How do you pluck 
> the 
> double-strings anyway? What does that thumb-under mean?
> 
> I wasn't expecting the spacing to be so different. Seems like it 
> will be a 
> change and may interfere with guitar playing? I also have no idea 
> how to tie 
> those gut frets, or indeed where you even get gut frets (do they 
> come with 
> string sets?)

Fretgut is sold separately from strings.  You need to get ahold of a
micrometer and measure the thickness of each one that is currently on the
instrument and order the appropriate gauges.   They are available from
most string vendors, like Dan Larson ( http://gamutstrings.com/ ) or Olav
Henricksen (email only: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ).  Worried about all this
hassle? Do not fear -- frets should last for years.

Short-term ":emergency" tightening of an existing fret that has stretched
and is sliding around can be done by slipping a short section of flat
toothpick or wooden matchstick under it on the back (thumb) side of the
neck. 

Regards,

Daniel Heiman

> 
> Me no understand. Me stoopid.
> 
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