I haven't done the statistics, but was under the impression that De Visée 
asks for thumb, index and middle only, that means no ring finger. See the 
sources for fingerings.

David


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To: "Nigel Solomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Lute Net" 
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Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 11:36 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: theorbo


> Nigel,
>
>
>      I'm going to leave the "virtually the same
> instrument" part out of the question for the moment.
> The whole debate over double vs. single string as well
> as Italian vs. French performance practice could get
> ugly.
>
>      I use the essentially the same technique for
> Castaldi, Pittoni, Hurel and de Visee.  What I do is
> basically thumb-over using thumb-index-middle maybe
> 75-80% of the time.  The re-entrant tuning of the
> theorbo means that I use the ring finger more
> frequently on theorbo than, say, baroque lute.
>
>      We know that Kapsberger did not use the right
> hand ring finger at all since he planted it along with
> the little finger on the top.  He also uses the % sign
> - meaning some variation of individually-fingered (as
> opposed to strummed or raked) arpeggio depending on
> the number and disposition of notes in the chord - on
> all chords with more than three notes.   He does this
> even on four-note chords that could easily have been
> blocked using the ring finger.  I make a real effort
> not use the ring finger in Kapsberger's music because
> I find that it has a huge effect on the interpretation
> and sound of the music.  I don't remember what
> Piccinini specifies, but the three-finger approach
> seems to work pretty well for everything I've played
> by him, too.
>
>      In general, other than the case of Kapsberger, I
> try not to be too pedantic about it.  I think right
> hand fingering for theorbo needs to be the most
> flexible and indiosyncratic approaches to a lute
> instrument - just look at how many times you end up
> using the index or even ring finger on the strong
> beat!
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> --- Nigel Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I have been following the thread of how lute
>> technique changed over the
>> years to suit new instruments and fashion. Does this
>> mean we should not
>> use the same right hand technique to play the
>> theorbo (chitaronne)
>> pieces by Piccinini as for De Viséé over a century
>> later, even though
>> virtually the same instrument is being played?
>>
>> Nigel
>>
>>
>>
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