I hope you may be right for the loaded strings. Perhaps they are on
their way, and you read the signs better than I do. Undoubtedly,
Mimmo will be demonstrating something this month at the Greenwich
early music festival. I suppose you may see his lute strung with
loaded strings, perhaps he has gone further and is ready to sell you
a complete set. I rather hope so/
As to the marks on the 5th and 7th fret, I noticed that a French lute
player who has over 30 lutes, has a little marketry circle set into
the lute neck near the 5th and 7th frets. The various lutemakers who
made these lutes, obviously accepted making this alteration to their
lutes.
I imagine that the more varied the lutes you play the more reason you
might have to introdcuing this sort of aid.
Anthony
Le 4 nov. 07 à 21:25, Daniel Winheld a écrit :
Uh-oh boys 'n girls- we're mixing our threads here. I've never felt
strongly about the marker marks except that they've always bothered
me aesthetically- but on rare occasions helped me out when playing
strictly from memory; which (classical) guitarists have always done
far more than any of us lute critters. (How do you get the guitarist
to shut up? -Give him sheet music)
I still want answers about the new, improved loaded basses that are
UNDOUBTEDLY coming our way any minute now...
.. And isn't it interesting that by the mid 17th century, seventy
some years after the Great String Improvement the French lutenists
had dropped the 1st course down to "f", singled out the 2nd, and
re-established 8ves at the 6th. Of course Dowland could have been
voicing a musically elite and minority opinion in regard to the
unison 6th.
Not sure what the norm was for 8ves in Italy- but still set up for
mostly doubled firsts on liuti attorbiati, no?
Dan
For what it's worth...
Perhaps the difference is that we lutenists daren't take our eyes
off the tablature, and so we have to find our way about the neck of
our instrument by touch, not sight. Having said that, I think I
might just stick something close tothe 7th fret...
Alan
----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Winheld"
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Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 6:15 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings
"I think Mimmo Peruffo may not reply because he may not want
to appear to be advertising his wares on this list. It is a
difficult situation for string makers and lute makers whenever they
communicate, it could be considered that indirectly they are trying
to sell their wares."
Couple of thoughts- I'm sure that Mimmo, our most advanced,
dedicated
commercial stringmaker, wouldn't merely be sharing his latest
conclusions and historical/scientific research results just for the
hell of it- something's got to be up; and he knows how badly some of
us want the next inevitable step to fall (waiting patiently for the
other shoe to drop?) in regard to the loaded gut bass strings. They
were so close! -But as pointed out, too many problems and headaches
involved.
I still have a pair of perfectly matched, in tune, loaded guts for
the only satisfactory unison pairing of this string type I've
encountered for the 6th course of my 7 course Andreas Holst lute. At
the 2005 LSA event in Cleveland Cathy Liddell was still wearing a
very carefully maintained set of loaded gut bass fundamentals 6 - 11
on her Baroque lute.
Come on, Mimmo! You've got our attention, big time- unload the
loaded
guts on us- please! Dan
P.S.- How many of us have had success- long term, that is, playing
cleanly and maintaining in tune the doubled first course, any string
material or on any instrument?
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