"Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > And the French lied Grands Dieux is decidedly in the "S" style.... > Overall my impression of Beyer is so-so.
As each song has its respective lyrics beneath the tab lines, it's seems they're intended to be played and att the same time to be sung from the tab. Pretty much the same as with the songs in Augsburg (two of them by Thomas Aug. Arne). Not my cup of tea, but never mind... Mathias > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ""Mathias Rösel"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Lutelist" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Cc: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 9:13 AM > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Reusner Scordatura > > > > "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > >> Just as I got my Beyer out, and read through it.... > > > > Only at the end I realized that the order of the songs follows the > > circle of fifths (Quintenzirkel) so that songs with more sharps must be > > closer to the end. Clever me >;) > > > > And, yes, hurray, the list is working again! > > > > Mathias > > > >> > "Oskar De Mari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > >> >> I'm thinking perhaps the E minor scordatura is what Jakob > >> >> Lindberg uses for both the e minor and major lute works... > >> > > >> > E major is a rare key in lute music anyway. Apart from Bach, I know of > >> > only two sources where it appears. > >> > > >> > Joh. Chr. Beyer, Gellert's Oden, 1760, includes two songs in E major > >> > (## > >> > 32, 33). According to Beyer's tabel of keys and related tunings, E > >> > major > >> > requires > >> > 7 = G sharp > >> > 8 = F sharp > >> > 10 = D sharp (!) > >> > 11 = C sharp > >> > (12 = B) > >> > > >> > Augsburg Tonkunst 2, Fasz. III, vol. 2 (edited by Joachim Domning) > >> > contains an anonymous aria in E major (# 33). The first measure shows > >> > the required scordatura, the same as in Beyer's tabel. However, the > >> > 10th > >> > course is not made used of. > >> > > >> > For Bach's E major suite, retuning of the 10th course to D sharp is not > >> > required, as far as I could see. For the sake of convenience, however, > >> > I'd retune at any rate > >> > 7 = G sharp > >> > 8 = F sharp > >> > 11 = C sharp > >> > > >> > Mathias > >> > > >> >> Subject: Re: [LUTE] Reusner Scordatura > >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > >> >> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:53:00 +0000 > >> >> > >> >> "Oskar De Mari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > >> >> > Could someone please send me the scordatura by Reusner for playing > >> >> > in > >> >> > the keys of E major and E minor? > >> >> > >> >> For music in E minor, Reusner 1647 has > >> >> > >> >> |---- > >> >> |---- > >> >> |---- > >> >> |--b- > >> >> |---- > >> >> |---- > >> >> | /a > >> >> > >> >> Reusner 1676 has > >> >> > >> >> |------- > >> >> |------- > >> >> |------- > >> >> |--b---- > >> >> |------- > >> >> |-----r-- > >> >> | /a 4 (I'm not aware of pieces in E major by Reusner.) > >> >> > >> >> The latter is also required in Gaultier 1669 + 1672 and in > >> >> Hinterleithner 1699. However, you wouldn't take the 11c lute for Bach > >> >> but the 13c, so that you don't need to retune the 11th course to B. > >> >> > >> >> > I'm interested in having a look at the Bach Lute works in those keys > >> >> > using the scordatura to maintain the original key. Does anyone know > >> >> > of > >> >> > a lutenist in Bach's time using such scordatura? > >> >> > >> >> No, but in opur days, Andre Burguete was the one to discuss possible > >> >> scordature in his preface to the related volume of the German Bach > >> >> edition and in a separated article. > >> >> -- > >> >> Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
