Greetings Arthur et al. I very sincerely intended no disrespect in referring to the existence of the original as a rumor. I have read these accounts before. I do not know the lutenist referenced nor the owner of the manuscript. I am also a biologist who deals with wild things. Eyewitness accounts are why the Loch Ness monster isn't on the books amongst those in my profession. I am not doubting what the lutenist in question saw. It's only that I have not seen it, have not seen this referenced in any known catalogues, have not had any corroboration beyond this singular account, etc. Again, I very sincerely intend absolutely no disrespect, but without more than a single un-verifiable account, this particular book is rumor from my perspective. I do not claim to speak from anybody else's perspective.
I am also very fully aware that Respighi drew from a great many sources (Roncalli's guitar music, e.g.). Feel free to read again: nowhere did I write nor intend to imply that Respighi only drew from the Codice Lauten-Buch--nowehere did I write that whole of Respighi's Ancient Airs could be located in Chilesotti's Codice Lauten-Buch. Anybody who took me to mean that Chilesotti's Codice Lauten-Buch was Respighi's sole source read far more in my brief note than I'd actually written. Also, anybody who dedicates years to a musicological wild goose chase based upon what a biologist/amateur musician posts to a public electronic forum deserves to find nothing at all. I also do not represent some kind of isolated, isolationist "guitar world" any more than I do an even odder 6-course, baroque-era mandolino world...or a pre-Chambure, speculative vihuela world. Personally, I love everybody's music and wouldn't dare to contain myself to one facet. Again, I intended no disrespect at all, but there is nothing I or the interested public can confirm of tablature originals of Chilesotti's Codice Lauten-Buch. That was my only point. Sincerely, Eugene ----- Original Message ----- From: Arthur Ness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008 6:07 pm Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Respighi To: "Eugene C. Braig IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, List Lute <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eugene C. Braig IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "List Lute" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:36 PM > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Respighi > > > | At 09:40 PM 9/16/2008, howard posner wrote: > | >In 1994 Dick Hoban's Lyre Music Publications published "Oscar > | >Chilesotti's Da un Codice Lauten-buch," Dick's re- > intabulation of > | >Chilesotti's transcriptions in neat, easy-to-read large-type French > | >tablature, spiral bound. You can order it from: > | > > | >http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lyre/lyre.html > | > | Because original tablature versions of the Chilesotti book > only appear > to > | exist in occasionally-referenced, third-person rumors, I > believe Paul > | O'Dette took a similar approach to his "Ancient Airs" recording: > | re-intabulating from Chilesotti's staff-notation version. > oooooooooooooooo > Dear Eugene, > > This common misunderstanding about the > Respighi Ancient Aires seems to surface from the guitar world each > and every time the Respighi suites are mentioned! All you > do is send > readers on a wild goose chase looking for pieces that are NOT in the > Codice Lauten-Buch. > > Can you imagine how frustrating it is to look through > 100 scores in an attempt to find a work that is not there? > > We've all done t. > > First--fast through. Nothing. > Slower. Nothing. > "But Eugene said they're there." > Once more--very slowly and carefully. > Damn! There's no > there there! > > All of the transcriptions used by Respighi come from SEVERAL articles > on lute music published by Chilesotti in various places, > including some > rather obscure Italian music journals, which are particularly > troublesometo locate. The three suites (publ. 1917, 1923 and > 1931--after OC's death > in 1916) contain 24 pieces, and ONLY SIX are taken from the Codice > Lauten-Buch! And the tablature for one of the six pieces > is reproduced > in Chilesotti's book in facsimile. So one would only have to > re-intabulate 5 of the pieces, because all of the others are available > in the original tablatures, many in convenient facsimile > editions or > modern editions wth tablature. > > As for the "third-person rumors," I take exception elsewhere in this > thread. I'd rather say they are not rumors, but an "eye- > witness account" > by a professional Italian lutenist who played a private recital > in the > home of the manuscript's current owner in the late 1990s. > He is said to > have performed > directly directly from the original manuscript "Lauten-Buch." > > AJN > oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo > <<snip>> > | Best, > | Eugene > | > | > | > | To get on or off this list see list information at > | http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > | > > --
