Thank you, Mathias. Yes, I was already aware of the Wikipedia article on top woods, but not the one on Picea Rubens. Thank you!

ed

At 04:29 AM 10/2/2009, Mathias Rösel wrote:
"Edward Martin" <e...@gamutstrings.com> schrieb:
> Yes, good wood is not cheap.  You mentioned
> spruce... I received my 11-course lute a week
> ago!  It had an accident, and the belly had been
> destroyed.  So, Dan Larson put a new top on it.
> It is spruce from New England, known as
> Adirondack spruce, or red spruce, or Appalacian
> spruce. I have never heard of Adirondack used on a lute, prior to this one.
> The results are beautiful!  The treble is incredibly clear, singing.

Yes, I read the thread with great interest. Also,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picea_rubens and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonewood#Topwoods_.28soundboard.29 have it
that picea rubens is an excellent tonewood for soundboards. European
luthiers don't use it as far as I'm aware, and I won't make it over the
pond,unfortunately, in the near future so as to listen to your playing.

Mathias

> At 07:45 PM 10/1/2009, Mathias Rösel wrote:
> >Yew for bowls e. g. is quite expensive in Old Europe as it was almost
> >extinguished when yew was required for military bows. Good spruce is
> >rare and not exactly cheap. Ebony for necks and fretboards still is
> >exotic woods, rare and expensive, if I'm not mistaken. So, a good HIP
> >lute cannot be cheap. But lutes still are cheap, compared to celli.
> >
> >My farthing FWIW
> >
> >Mathias
> >
> >"Jaros³aw Lipski" <jaroslawlip...@wp.pl> schrieb:
> > > Well, it may be possible that some people
> > will buy such a lute, but we have
> > > to ask what is the reason for doing so. The
> > lute is not only a device. I can
> > > only quote Ernst Gottlieb Baron (1727) who says in his "Study of the lute":
> > > "I once saw at Herr Hoffman's in Leipzig an old lute of solid copper,
> > > heavily gilded on the back with many figures
> > etched upon it, and the top was
> > > of black ebony. But when I examined the tone, I found that this instrument
> > > sounded more like an old pot than a true lute. Whoever wishes to have a
> > > good-sounding instrument will choose good and appropriate wood."
> > >
> > > Best
> > >
> > > Jaroslaw Lipski
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mustafa Umut Sarac" <mustafaumutsa...@gmail.com>
> > > To: "howard posner" <howardpos...@ca.rr.com>
> > > Cc: <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:24 PM
> > > Subject: [LUTE] Re: : Cost of a lute?
> > >
> > >
> > > >   There are some people wastes 50 years to create their art designs
> > > >   cheapest , no need to cnc lathes and enviromentally friendly.
> > > >
> > > >   I gave my 25 years to studying this kind of stuff.
> > > >
> > > >   If you look to Luigi Colani , he creates whatever he wants with hot
> > > >   wire cut foam.
> > > >
> > > > I think this is the cheapest , fastest , less complex , and using least
> > > >   electric technology.
> > > >
> > > >   And no noise for home studios in the apartments
> > > >
> > > >   Only you have to do is to create a moving hot wire inside foam.
> > > >
> > > > Than you fill the cut foam with polyester slowly , and seal the foam.
> > > >   There would be no nasty fume.
> > > >
> > > >   You can fill the very thin foam cut with a syringe very slowly.
> > > >
> > > > I asked to produce a guitar with rapid production , rapid prototyping
> > > >   methods and it costs 3000 dollars without a neck . This is not
> > > >   intelligent.
> > > >
> > > >   Hot wire FOAM CUT is the best
> > > >
> > > >   How you will produce the back , one by one and assembling the foams
> > > >   together precisely and fill with epoxy.
> > > >
> > > >   I am seriously thinking to produce Lutes with this technology.
> > > >
> > > > You can produce carbon composites with adding graphite carbon powder in
> > > >   to the polymer !
> > > >
> > > >   It is like using saw and a wood.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   Best ,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   Mustafa Umut Sarac
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   Istanbul
> >
> >
> >
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