You may be right - I hedged my bets by saying 'perhaps'. What I can say is that in various period bands in which I play the DC of the menuet is invariably played only once.
Do the figures actually danced tell us anything? When last playing for 'period' dancers (The Arbeu Dancers) they asked us not to repeat the DC but, of course, they may have simply become hypnotised by modern(ish) practice. Martyn --- On Sun, 9/10/11, A. J. Ness <arthurjn...@verizon.net> wrote: From: A. J. Ness <arthurjn...@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Menuet for Mandora (Brussels MS 5.619) To: "Martyn Hodgson" <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: "Lute Net" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Date: Sunday, 9 October, 2011, 15:38 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martyn Hodgson" <[1]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> To: "Stuart Walsh" <[2]s.wa...@ntlworld.com> Cc: "Lute Net" <[3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 3:30 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Menuet for Mandora (Brussels MS 5.619) > > > Dear Stuart, <<<SNIP>>> > Re repeating minuets and trios: if orchestral practice is anything to > go by, they would have expected repeats in both the minuer and trio it > but with perhaps the DC reprise of the minuet played only once: I > think we often forget these days that many players had rather small > collections of music (we are, of course, tremendously fortunate in > having centuries on tap). <<AJN>> From many of our earliest music lessons as children we were instructed to ignore the repeat signs on the Da Capo of a minuet (or similar ABA form). I do not know when this convention was introduced. Perhaps in the 19th century. But the repeat on the Da Capo was taken in earlier times, e.g., during the 18th century. Sometimes a minuet has two or more trios (especially in serenades and divertimentos), and then you will invariably see the instruction at the end of both Trios, "Menuetto da capo senza repetizione." It is a warning not to follow the "usual" practice of observing the repeats during the Da Capo when there is one Trio. > I'll leave ralls and the like to personal taste.... > > Martyn -- References 1. http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk 2. http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=s.wa...@ntlworld.com 3. http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lute@cs.dartmouth.edu To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html