Thanks Daniel,

I do come to the lute from the guitar, though with a hiatus of 6 or 7 years in 
between, so I am not finding the learning curve too steep, even though I was 
not a particularly accomplished guitar player. Fortunately I'm a freelancer who 
works from home and so have a lot of time to practice, I've been averaging a 
couple hours or so a day (great for my playing, not so much for my work). I did 
find the 8-course I played a little awkward, but I only played it for briefly 
so didn't have much of a chance to get used to it. But I as I have been 
exploring the entire lute repertoire through CDs, I have really fallen in love 
with the early Renaissance music, as well as Dowland and some of the 
Elizabethan stuff which was what had first attracted me to the lute. A 7 course 
seems like a good compromise to play all this (I considered also and 8c or even 
a 6c to start, but perhaps it's best to split the difference and go with 7?). 
Besides, I'm only 28 and hope to have many lute-playing year!
 s ahead of me, and it seems I am already quite infected with this malady, so 
to speak, so I'm sure this won't be the last lute I buy. 

Best,

Joshua




On May 2, 2012, at 6:06 PM, Daniel Winheld wrote:

> Your post explains why the 8 course lute was developed, or as I like to call 
> it, the "Double 7" . I have never found a string material of any sort that 
> would stand up to a scordatura range exceeding a whole tone. Even going for a 
> compromise tension (say an ideal E/E-flat) would still be unsatisfactory for 
> me, but you could try tweaking that one. Some strange remedies to this 
> conundrum have been attempted- including a mechanical kind of hook through 
> the neck to pull down the low D at the 3rd fret. Only on some old, heavily 
> built compromise lutes.
> 
> As a beginner, I would suggest having a 7th course dedicated to F. Unless you 
> come to the lute with say, an advanced guitar left hand it will take a 
> considerable amount of time & practice before you are able to fluently finger 
> a 7th course- much 6 course music is already as difficult as it gets in lute 
> land anyway. Many beginners find 8 courses confusing, and besides, the 
> historic 8 course lute was a somewhat short lived version on the 
> end-of-the-Renaissance lute's march to the 10 course version & beyond. When 
> you achieve left hand mastery, switching out the low F to a low D will make 
> for a 7th course that is more accessible anyway, (and a very widespread 
> historic set-up) and not having to jump over a low F. Some players will 
> reverse the 2 courses on an 8 course lute for this purpose.
> 
> But, again, for many of us, the 8 course lute just solves more problems than 
> it creates. If I had my druthers and more money, space, and time than I 
> deserve I would own both 7 course and  9 course lutes (miss that low C in 
> some favorite Holborne & R. Johnson pieces) for covering just the late 
> Renaissance, Elizabethan/post Elizabethan repertoire.
> 
> Good luck with this one. We have dealt with this one before on the list.
> 
> Dan
> On May 2, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Joshua Burkholder wrote:
> 
>> Dear lute-listers,
>> 
>> A question from a beginner:
>> 
>> First to introduce myself, my name is Joshua and I've been playing the lute 
>> for several months now; I have been on the list for a couple weeks and am 
>> really enjoying following your discussions. I have a rental 7-course and I 
>> am now in the process of taking the plunge and buying a lute of my own. 
>> After much reading, pondering and agonizing over the best number of courses 
>> to start with, I've come to the conclusion that a 7-course best suits my 
>> needs. So onto to my question:
>> 
>> I know that some people re-tune the 7th course from D to F as needed, but on 
>> my rental lute this seems quite impossible. The diapason is stung to F and 
>> if I drop it down to D it becomes far too wobbly and flabby. From this I 
>> assume that if I were to restring it to D, which I'd prefer on the whole, it 
>> would likewise be impossible to raise it to F. Currently the lute is strung 
>> with Pyramid strings so the basses are metal wound. Is it only possible to 
>> change from D to F on the same string if one uses gut strings (Poulton 
>> remarks to this effect in her tutor that if it's strung to be tuned at D "it 
>> will only be possible to raise it to F if gut strings are used")? Otherwise 
>> I have to re-string? Or does someone use some other stringing solution, 
>> besides just keeping it D and fingering the third fret for F (or buying an 
>> 8-course lute...)? I've read enough about stringing lutes to understand that 
>> it will be a while before I understand anything about stringing lutes... 
>> 
>> Thank you for taking the time to help out a newcomer.
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Joshua
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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