On 07/31/2012 03:25 PM, A.J. Padilla MD wrote:
As I recall, over the years there have been several threads about the
Pakistani lutes, all pretty much negative, essentially to the effect that
you need all new strings, have to change the action by altering the
fingerboard and/or bridge and/or nut, and tolerate a thick, poorly-made
soundboard, they're ok.

That's all quite fair.  I bought one from eBay years ago.  It was playable,
and made sound.  It reminded me of one of those cheap ukuleles that you
can pick up at a gift shop in Hawaii.  It did enough to let me know
whether I wanted to pursue playing on a lute.  In the end I decided
to stick with a retuned classical guitar because I found it difficult
to go back and forth between the two, due to the great difference in
spacing between the strings.

If you can get into the lute archives, the stuff is there.
I have no personal experience with those instruments, however.
Note that the Lute Society (in the UK) has a list of luthiers both in Europe
and N America. I would think that the LSA (Lute Society of America) has a
similar list.
Do you perchance have a firstborn child, or an extra gonad, or perhaps a
kidney you might want to offer for a "real" lute?
Al Padilla

-----Original Message-----
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Bruno Fournier
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:06 PM
To: William Samson
Cc: Jim Ammeson; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: My First Lute

    I would suggest you try and rent one from a local lutenist, or perhaps
    check with the university music faculty if there would be one available
    on loan.

    A

    regards

    A

    Bruno Cognyl-Fournier

    Montreal Canada

    A

    A

    On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:32 PM, William Samson
    <[1]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk>  wrote:

      A  A A difficult one, Jim. A Most lutes are built to order for a
      customer -
      A  A unfortunate because the customer doesn't get a chance to try it
      before
      A  A committing to buy it!
      A  A There are, however, some off-the-peg lutes available. A Closest
      to your
      A  A price range are the lutes built (in Pakistan??) for the Early
      Music
      A  A Shop in England
      A
      A [1][2]http://www.earlymusicshop.com/product.aspx/en-GB/1000655-ems
      -8-cours
      A  A e-renaissance-lute A  I have recently seen and tried one of
      these and
      A  A found it to play very well. A I don't know if similar lutes are
      A  A available in the US but would be surprised if they aren't.
      A  A The other possibility is the second-hand market, but you're in
      the lap
      A  A of the gods, there.
      A  A Good luck in your quest!
      A  A Bill
      A  A From: Jim Ammeson<[3]jimastr...@yahoo.com>
      A  A To: "[4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu"<[5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
      A  A Sent: Tuesday, 31 July 2012, 17:31
      A  A Subject: [LUTE] My First Lute

    A  A  A So, I've been considering buying a lute for a few years now,
    but I've
    A  A  A had trouble finding places I can really try playing one or many
    A  A people
    A  A  A I can talk to about them. A (Lutes are a bit of a niche thing,
    I
    A  A know.)
    A  A  A A lutenist at the local renaissance faire suggested this list,
    so I
    A  A  A thought I'd post.
    A  A  A So, I'll just explain my situation, right now:
    A  A  A I've been playing classical guitar for about 5 years. A I play
    lots of
    A  A  A baroque and renaissance music, love the stuff. A I'd really
    like to
    A  A try
    A  A  A playing a lute or two before deciding if I want to make the
    A  A investment
    A  A  A in buying one. A As of right now, I don't have much over $500
    to spend
    A  A  A (I know that's not probably enough for one that's really worth
    A  A having,
    A  A  A unless I get a good price on a used one or something), but I'm
    A  A  A *willing* to spend more, just don't have it *now*. A (I'm a
    college
    A  A  A student, nuff said?)
    A  A  A I live in the Chicago area, and have asked around if there's
    anyplace
    A  A  A in the area whatsoever that makes lutes, and have tried looking
    A  A online,
    A  A  A but haven't found anything. A I've asked around at renaissance
    faires,
    A  A  A as well, and, again, just was directed here by one lutenist.
    A  A  A So, any advice as to what a beginning lutenist should do?
    A Where to
    A  A go
    A  A  A to try a lute for the first time and see if it is really
    something
    A  A for
    A  A  A him? A I've been thinking an 8 course lute would be good for
    the
    A  A pieces
    A  A  A I play to play...Bach and Dowland and the like? A Any general
    advice
    A  A is
    A  A  A also appreciated.
    A  A  A -Jim
    A  A  A --
    A  A To get on or off this list see list information at

      A  A [2][6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
      A  A --
      References
      A  A 1.
      [7]http://www.earlymusicshop.com/product.aspx/en-GB/1000655-ems-8-co
      urse-renaissance-lute
      A  A 2. [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

    --

    A

    Bruno Cognyl-Fournier

    A

    [9]www.estavel.org

    A

    --

References

    1. mailto:willsam...@yahoo.co.uk
    2. http://www.earlymusicshop.com/product.aspx/en-GB/1000655-ems-8-cours
    3. mailto:jimastr...@yahoo.com
    4. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
    5. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
    6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
    7.
http://www.earlymusicshop.com/product.aspx/en-GB/1000655-ems-8-course-renais
sance-lute
    8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
    9. http://www.estavel.org/





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