..mandolins in fifth-tunings, some wire-strung English guittars, etc...  
Although I suppose one could argue they all bear some true lute 
"relationships," at least structurally.

Eugene

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To: Monica Hall
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Chitarrone

Mandoras/gallichons, Italian Guitars, Chitarroni, Wandevogellauten, Ukrainian 
Banduras, Citterns with oval bodies etc, etc....
RT



On 10/17/2012 4:05 PM, Monica Hall wrote:
>     Such as ?   .............
>
>
>
>     Monica
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>
>     From: [1]WALSH STUART
>
>     To: [2]Monica Hall
>
>     Cc: [3]Lutelist
>
>     Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:56 PM
>
>     Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Chitarrone
>
>       Other instruments than lutes have 'lute-shaped' bodies...
>       Stuart
>
>     On 17 October 2012 20:29, Monica Hall <[4]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>       Well - what is the difference between a lute and a gittern/mandore.
>         When is a lute not a lute? Chitarrone as I understand it is a
>       large member of the lute family i.e. it has a lute shaped body.   It
>       depends what you mean by separate traditions.......
>       Monica...getting more confused by the minute.
>
>         Diego, unfortunately I cannot read Italian. Are you in agreement
>       with
>         Meucci?
>         Monica, the only things I know about Meucci's article are from
>       you. As
>         I understand it, Meucci isn't saying that the chitarrone is a
>       large
>         lute. The lute has its own, separate,  traditions. The chitarrone
>       (he
>         is saying, I think) is a large (massive!) gittern (or
>       gittern/mandore).
>         Stuart
>         On 17 October 2012 18:34, Diego Cantalupi <[1][5]tio...@gmail.com>
>       wrote:
>           If you can read Italian, you can find my dissertation about
>           Chitarrone here:
>           [2][6]http://www.diegocantalupi.it/tesi.pdf
>           The first chapter is about ethimology.
>           Diego
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