Just to be sure, he used nails on _gut_? Ragossinig, too? When I played those records in my childhood I always assumed they were nylon strings. When would JB and KR have moved to nylon?

Sean


On Dec 10, 2013, at 6:21 PM, Allan Alexander wrote:

Sean

Bream used nails, so I guess it started. So does Ragossnig

Allan


Since there appear to be lute players who use nails - a club I haven't
joined and now I'm curious - I wonder if there are there people who
use all gut and nails.

Could they tell us their experience on how it affects the the life of
the strings? Do they [the strings] wear excessively? Do the thinner
ones need more frequent changing than the thicker gut strings? After
they wear a bit and perhaps fray, is the intonation affected? If so,
how?

Wait, I thought of another. How about you orpharion and bandora
players - do you use nails?

Sean

ps. we seem to be on a topic of nails (tho I can readily see the
connection to the Bream thread) so forgive me for re-subjecting this
offshoot of the thread. If it helps feel free to respond to Bruno's
post as well under it.


On Dec 10, 2013, at 5:29 PM, Bruno Correia wrote:

  It may sound good to you, but not for most of the lutenists out
there.
  Ask Hoppy about this issue? Ok, you don't need to ask him, after
  all you don't ride a horse to the gig... Hey, I'd like to do that,
  the traffic has been so bad nowadays.

  The most frequent word to describe the lute's sound is sweetness!
  How can you have achieve it with nails? Double strings also require
  that both strings be pressed at once and not one after the other.
  The lute is after all a sweet instrument (specially with gut). Even
  in
classical
  guitar tutors (19th-20th century) the issue of nails was still
rolling
  on. Sor hated it and only tolerated Aguado because of his great
skill.
  That's why Tarrega and Pujol also avoided it (even if it was a
  requirement due to the high tension of the Torres guitar).

  Going back: The sources were just saying that many people were
careless
  about their sound production. In order to avoid it, what about
cutting
  your nails once and a while, washing your hands (daily if you can)?

  2013/12/10 Mayes, Joseph <[1]ma...@rowan.edu>

    I play the lute, archlute and vihuela with nails for the same
reason
    that I
    play the classical guitar with nails: because it sounds better!
    Of course, by that I mean it sounds better to me. Nails give the
    attack a precision that flesh does not. It also comes closer,
    IMHO to the sound usually described in historical sources as
    desirable on lute - silvery, tinkling, etc. Many sources tell us
    not to use nails - which they wouldn't have bothered to do if
    people were not doing it that way. I don't play with flesh, I
    don't ride my horse to the gig, and I don't attend any
    bear-bating. My $.02 Joseph mayes


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References

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